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Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« on: January 30, 2013, 09:51:14 AM »
Is anyone using one of these?

My two main lenses are a 24-70 2.8 and a 70-300 4.5-5.6, the latter with the first generation VR.
I've been lusting after the 70-200 2.8 for years, but, apart from the cost, the weight has put me off.

The new(ish) 70-200 F4 might be a compromise, about 1/3 cheaper and only half the weight.
The F4 has VR in the third generation, but would it be so much of an advantage for me? Would I notice a big enough difference between the F4 and my old 70-300mm to merit spending over 1000 euros?

Or do I go for the older 2.8 VR II ... I'm sure I would notice a difference there, but the extra weight ... and I would be losing 100mm.

Decisions decisions ...  :legit:


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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2013, 06:01:40 PM »
I love my 70-200mm F2.8 VR even though the seals aren't as good as they should be. Used with my D3 it has a great balance in my hands. One stop of difference between that and the new F4 might not seem much but in low light it makes a big difference. Not sure the new lens will be as good as the old 2.8 VR but the choice is yours. Go into a store and check both out then go home and think about it before making your choice.  :tup:

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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2013, 10:35:57 PM »
I went for the f4 16-35 when I really shopuld have saved more for the 14-24. Get the 70-200 f 2.8 and ignore the seeming benefits of the f4. If you cannot afford the Nikon I can vouch for the Sigma 70-200 2.8 - another heavy beast but probably my sharpest lens and sharper than my Nikon 85 1.8 at each possible aperture!!!

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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2013, 08:16:13 AM »
Thanks for the input guys!

I considered the Sigma - it's certainly a chunk cheaper, half the price in fact, if only 100g lighter than the Nikon. Apart from my Tamron 90 macro, I've ended up replacing my Sigma/Tamron lenses with Nikon. I really don't know what to do.
I'm off to my favourite camera shop later this morning to get the donated Canon EF checked out before I put it up for sale. I'll see if they have either of the lenses in stock and ask their advice.
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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2013, 09:53:56 AM »
At some point I`ll switch my sigma for the Nikon 70-200 for the VR but needs to be a good price to tempt me as I am so happy with the Sigma and I got a free 2x converter with it when I bought it.

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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2013, 12:16:44 PM »
I've  more or less decided on the 70-200 from Nikon. It seems to be THE lens if you take your  photography seriously :)

I'll have to see how I get on with the size and weight, before I start looking at converters though. Maybe 200mm will be enough for me.
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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2013, 03:16:42 PM »
  It's an absolute cracker of a lens, you'll get used to the weight, anything else is a compromise.  :tup:
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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2013, 04:11:24 PM »
Thanks Graham, that's the conclusion I've come to.

I've got the possiblity of a second hand VR1 for 1000€ against a new VR11 for 1830€. It's a heck of a difference in price - ist the VRII so much better? The VR1 was fully serviced at Nikon last November.
Considering I'm not sure if I can handle the weight, maybe I should go for it ...
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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2013, 05:06:16 PM »
Thanks Graham, that's the conclusion I've come to.

I've got the possiblity of a second hand VR1 for 1000€ against a new VR11 for 1830€. It's a heck of a difference in price - ist the VRII so much better? The VR1 was fully serviced at Nikon last November.
Considering I'm not sure if I can handle the weight, maybe I should go for it ...

Go for the VR 1 it's a bargain as secondhand here they are looking for £1,400 plus.  :tup:

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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2013, 05:25:37 PM »
 Listen to your uncle Oldboy. :tup:
 I've got the VR1 and I don't really see how the VR2 would be so much better.
 If the weight is a problem a monopod is the answer.
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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2013, 05:58:10 PM »
Already got a monopod, so I'm OK there.
Mind you, I can't see me in a pen with 10-15 dogs and a monopod  :P
I'll have to start training  :dance:

Just waiting for a reply now, so see if the lens is still for sale. I can even pick it up personally, the chap's in Frankfurt!
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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2013, 12:45:59 PM »
OK, the lens was bought in 2007, so about 5 years old. It was serviced at Nikon last November when it was adjusted, cleaned and the VR replaced.

The only thing not included is the lense hood,  but the hood from my 24-70 should fit.

5 years seems a bit old. Hubby reckons if it's older than 3 years I should leave it.
The offer, with photos, is here http://www.dslr-forum.de/showthread.php?t=1199165

Go for it or get a VRII? Sorry to be such a dither ... 1050€ is still a lot of cash.
The VR II from Amazon costs 1830€, but then that's new, with guarantee etc.
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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2013, 03:12:24 PM »
Don`t know if this is any good for you in Germany.http://www.hdewcameras.co.uk/nikon-70-200mm-af-s-nikkor-f28g-ed-vr-ii-lens-498-p.asp at 1669E

They do grey imports you need to be aware. I got my D7000 back up camera from here for way less than it cost elsewhere and it comes with a 5 year warranty through their own repair system in UK. Not sure what they say re: lenses but I know a few people who have bought here without problems.

I wouldn`t touch that 5 year old one at that price after such repairs - how did it happen? Was it dropped? Seems odd to replace a Vr system in a service.

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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2013, 04:40:31 PM »
Thanks for the advice, Paul.
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Re: Nikon 4/70-200 ED VR
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2013, 07:35:04 PM »
OK, the lens was bought in 2007, so about 5 years old. It was serviced at Nikon last November when it was adjusted, cleaned and the VR replaced.

The only thing not included is the lense hood,  but the hood from my 24-70 should fit.

5 years seems a bit old. Hubby reckons if it's older than 3 years I should leave it.
The offer, with photos, is here http://www.dslr-forum.de/showthread.php?t=1199165

Go for it or get a VRII? Sorry to be such a dither ... 1050€ is still a lot of cash.
The VR II from Amazon costs 1830€, but then that's new, with guarantee etc.


I wouldn`t touch that 5 year old one at that price after such repairs - how did it happen? Was it dropped? Seems odd to replace a Vr system in a service.

If it's been serviced by Nikon then it would be like new. VR could have been replaced due to faulty motor which might have been caused by damp. It's the optics that cost the money not VR or the lens body.  :tup:

 

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