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One Page Websites
« on: February 17, 2012, 12:33:30 AM »
A friend of mine who runs a local MOT Garage thought he should join the 21st  Century and be seen on the web so I set about making him a basic website. I came up with this basic one page idea with inclusion in Google maps and a link on his page to the map.

Anyway this got me thinking !  Not every small business needs a all singing and dancing website so I came up with this idea. Remember its still work in progress and any ideas would be appreciated.. :legit:...http://www.lancashirephotography.com/#/websites/4560880189



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Re: One Page Websites
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2012, 07:59:28 AM »
My initial reaction is that you're setting yourself up for a wold of pain for £95.

Sure you can probably bang a page like that out in 5 mins but I can see all kinds of problems down the line - what happens when the server goes down (where are you hosting...?) or email gets lost or they want a change?  Every call to your business costs you money.  All of a sudden you ain't a photographer, you're a very poorly paid IT support desk.

Don't personally like the design at all.  Nothing really lines up and I'm looking at the page trying to figure out what they actually do.

There's also an enormous amount of code to throw that on the screen (srsly this page should be 10 lines + SEO) with some odd comments about Flash.  You're pulling in a whole bunch of .swf files (maybe 300 KB+) that don't appear to do anything other than stop it running on an iPhone.  There's a mobile version but that looks a bit odd and the "standard version" from there is different again.

Bottom line....a firm that builds website for small businesses hires me to take pics for them.  They pay me way more than £95 just for the photography.  I wouldn't get involved in all that mucking about for the money you are charging.  I'd double the cost and get a nice template you can drop their stuff into.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2012, 09:49:14 AM »
I agree about the image alignment, and nice header wouldn't do any harm either I guess.

One thing.  Trouble with using moonfruit for this sort of stuff is they have so many other domains on the same server as you, in fact there's over a thousand running on that same server, and some of them are marked as having explicit content. 

"There is a possibility that all of the web sites on this web server may be blocked by web filtering software. Search engine rankings for these web sites may be affected as well."  So basically it can stop some people from seeing your hard work.

If you look at Jonathan's site(s) for example, he only has 5 domains hosted on that server.  8)



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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2012, 06:00:52 PM »
Thanks Jonathan and Mick for your input.  The whole idea was to produce just a single page website and then had it over to the customer as it would be registered to them then hopefully, should they need more content they would come to me. As Jonathan said I don't want to get bogged down other peoples IT problems.

There is no way I will get to understand everything you have told me but I have altered a few things on the site. I assume you mean the site needs to be narrower to work better on a smartphone. Anyway I have got rid of a few things so have a look.  www.mot-leyland.com     This is what someone else set up for them quite a while ago  www.leylandgarage.com the map link is not working and the marker in google maps was in the wrong part of town so I deleted it and started again.

Mick I am not sure what I can do about the Moonfruit server problem other than start all over again somewhere else.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2012, 07:43:38 PM by Dave »

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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2012, 07:31:44 PM »
So - you want to become a web designer and host.

Realistically, you should get your own web server - even if it is only a virtual server for about £400 pa.
This means that you control what domains are attached to it, thereby control whether it hits the white list or black list for on spam prevention lists.
My company is fairly good for this, and support is second to none.

You also get the option to create a user account for that client so all of their stuff is local to them. Generating e-mail facilities is also easier on your own server.
So, for that you could happily charge £50pa for hosting and domain name registration. Get 8 clients and your costs are covered for your web stuff as well  :tup:
Any more, and you're on a profit  :tup: :beer:

Web design is such fun, especially now no one uses simple HTML (or even simple CSS for that matter). So the trick is to work with templates that are varied and differe in style and complexity. Wordpress is the current favourite, and as a CMS based system, it allows the client to manage the content with out you getting side tracked. Others are out there - but they all work in pretty much the same way.

Now regarding that other career you've been pursuing - photography was it? - how will that fit into things? Maybe charge a couple of sods for a pic or 2 to put on the site you're designing?

Oh, and don't forget those phone calls at 23:00 when some ones web site isn't working and it's mission critical to get it up and running again. Especially if it is a garage with a tow truck  :o

So, have we convinced you what a great idea it is you've had?  :doh:

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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2012, 09:50:05 PM »
it's a one page website, it's not gonna be mission critical for anything and certainly not for a one off fee of £95.

Anyone who needs to depend on their website isn't going to have what basically amounts to a one page advert. That is just one form of advertising that they probably do in different areas. If companies want that and there is a gap in the market for it, I say good luck to you.

Unless you're going to host hundreds or thousands of similar sites getting your own server to host a handful of one page adverts is going to be something of overkill. And why you'd want a CMS system for such a set of websites is beyond me.

I have my own server, it hosts my own websites plus a few mates' sites, I pay over a grand a year for it. If you go down the route of a virtual server you will have the same problems as those mentioned about moonfruit and are just as likely to have hundreds or thousands of websites on the same server, albeit they might be packaged up into lots of little virtual servers. They're called virtual servers because they don't exist, they share the same computing functions and ability as loads of other virtual servers.
That's why I ended up getting my own server because I was fed up with the computer I had a virtual server on slowing down or crashing all the time due to running hundreds of other people's websites.

Just my take on it.

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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2012, 10:31:41 PM »
An interesting take on the virtual server issue.

I would like to have my own server, just can't afford it  :'(

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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 10:59:05 PM »
An interesting take on the virtual server issue.

I would like to have my own server, just can't afford it  :'(

I'm about sell hosting, but it's a shared server setup, so you wouldn't be any better off.  Ok for a blog or portfolio, or even a small forum. 

I can't afford a dedicated server, or even a VPS, hence why CC runs on a shared server which currently hosts another 63 sites.  But then it's not a business website, its a hobby.  ;)

Dave, If you're into coding, what you need to do is build the site using a text editor such as notepad++ or some other site design package.  If you compare the source code for your garage page, to the one they had built for them previously, you'll see what Jonathan was talking about regarding "a few lines of code"  Your page is full of code it doesn't need.  Yours is 284 lines of code.  Their old one is 25 lines of code, as below,

Code: [Select]
<html>
<head>
<title>leylandgarage.com,servicing,MOT,tyres,exhausts.</title>
<meta name="keywords" content= leyland garage mot servicing tyres exhausts">
<meta name="description" content= leylandgarage.com, leyland garage, mot, servicing, tyres, exhausts">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function MM_openBrWindow(theURL,winName,features) { //v2.0
  window.open(theURL,winName,features);
}
//-->
</script>
</head>

<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" onLoad="">
<p onClick="MM_openBrWindow('1hr','woman','width=399,height=510')">&nbsp;</p>
<map name="MapMap"><area shape="rect" coords="11,145,102,162" href="#"></map>
<table width="829" border="0" height="454" align="center">
  <tr>
    <td><img src="index.jpg" width="827" height="452" border="1" usemap="#Map"><map name="Map"><area shape="rect" coords="605,347,681,373" href="http://www.multimap.com/s/jCA9TwzG"></map></td>
  </tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>
 
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2012, 11:16:26 PM »
My website stuff is a hobby too, it's just rather an expensive one, I charge a few friends £25 a year for a virtual server, that pays for about 6 weeks server rental.

 

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