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Re: Back to Film ?
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2011, 05:03:30 PM »
Try as I might with all the technology and software I still can't get anything from a digital that looks like slightly pushed Tri-X printed grade 4 on Ilford multigrade.

But that's not clarity, that's feel ;)

I don't know for sure, but I'd have thought that to get the resolution of decent 120 or 645 film you'd need to spend Jonathan type money on a large format digital camera.

I had a friend years ago (lost touch now) who used to shoot gigs for a living. He reckoned that if he got one keeper from 500 he was doing well.

Medium format film does have a higher resolution (35mm film is said to need somewhere between 16 and 24Mp digital) than current 35mm digital cameras. However, the above still applies (Exposure, processing etc) - hence poloroid backs for previewing when in the studio.

I'm sure you could simulate the look of tri-X etc in Photoshop etc - but not something that I would know where to start - apart from google :)
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Re: Back to Film ?
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2011, 07:15:25 PM »
My Canon film camera was the EOS600   :D

I have a EOS 650 for sale on e.bay at the moment. I heard somewhere that college / uni photographic students are still taught the basics with film.

I hope they are. I always considered, 'old' film trained photographers ,'proper' photographers. I only have second hand knowledge of film, but the father of a childhood friend was a 'proper' photographer and the difference he could create  by using different papers and solutions and whatevers, must be a very good training for a photographer. I don't know if digital can recreate all the subtle differences. 
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Re: Back to Film ?
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2011, 08:04:01 PM »
My Canon film camera was the EOS600   :D

I have a EOS 650 for sale on e.bay at the moment. I heard somewhere that college / uni photographic students are still taught the basics with film.

I hope they are. I always considered, 'old' film trained photographers ,'proper' photographers. I only have second hand knowledge of film, but the father of a childhood friend was a 'proper' photographer and the difference he could create  by using different papers and solutions and whatevers, must be a very good training for a photographer. I don't know if digital can recreate all the subtle differences.

How many people would bother with cameras if they weren't digital. If people hadn't got PCs would they bother with digital cameras at all. The fact that you can go out take a picture, come home and put it on their PC's to view and view or delete, total cost is almost nothing. With film it would cost you a fortune to see the finished picture and realized it's rubbish, you would soon stop doing it and the camera would end up in the cupboard.  :o

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Re: Back to Film ?
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2011, 01:09:06 AM »

How many people would bother with cameras if they weren't digital. If people hadn't got PCs would they bother with digital cameras at all. The fact that you can go out take a picture, come home and put it on their PC's to view and view or delete, total cost is almost nothing. With film it would cost you a fortune to see the finished picture and realized it's rubbish, you would soon stop doing it and the camera would end up in the cupboard.  :o

Exactly what happened with me, it was put the camera away or get a divorce. I kept the camera for snaps but didn't get back to what I now love until a family member lent me their digital. Now I'm here annoying people, it's grand.  :2funny:
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Re: Back to Film ?
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2011, 06:58:13 AM »
The theory that it costs nothing is slightly flawed. For those that don't frequent on line photo sites and forums it might just be the cost of a camera or camera/kit lens...for others it's an ongoing saga of upgrades and....'which is sharpest - the Canon 400mm or 100-400mm?' 'I'm just not happy with my 18-50' 'I feel I've outgrown my current camera'  :D  And of course you must have the latest version of Photoshop [how do they all afford that?!] The losers must be the companies that relied heavily on film sales, but the camera manufacturers whose film cameras had little in the way of updates once af and programme modes were established can now convince us that a dslr without live view, movie mode and xx no of mp is 'old technology' - and we believe them!  ::) I've seen plenty of posts where people have been told not to bother with a D300 as it's old technology!   
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Re: Back to Film ?
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2011, 12:01:32 AM »
I've come to this thread late, bit with interest having just bought some old film cameras from Ebay, I want to get back into film too.

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Re: Back to Film ?
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2011, 07:50:34 AM »
I know I'm going to get burned at the stake for this, but our friend Amy just published a review of the sprocket rocket http://www.techradar.com/reviews/cameras-and-camcorders/cameras/compact-cameras/lomography-sprocket-rocket-1013744/review

Love the first picture on her sample images page.

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Re: Back to Film ?
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2011, 10:16:34 AM »
I love the Lomo type apps on my iphone and wanted to try it for real. I found a Lomo TLR plastic kit for £12 so am waiting for it to arrive. I think it's a bit of fun to indulge on a bit more of the frivolous side of photography now and again.

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Re: Back to Film ?
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2011, 01:18:15 PM »
I remember digital cameras being called "frivolous", one time.

Another camera that's fun is the Holga 120. It can be bought with either a glass or a plastic lens, along with a flash model, and a flash model which has various coloured filters over the flash unit. It's also completely plastic, so dig out the masking tape if you don't want light leaks.
Its only drawback is that it takes 120 roll film, which generally needs to be processed at home... most of these 1-hour supasnaps places won't know what roll film is, let alone process it.

The bonus of the Holga is that it's not run by an extortion racket, unlike lomo.

 

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