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Re: A Nice Pad
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2014, 11:26:53 AM »

Lovely area - as is Surrey in general for all types of artists. Just no good for cyclists - even though the headquarters of the CTC is in Guildford (formerly Godalming!)


Tell that to those who organise the annual bike ride for thousands through the county and cause mayhem and disruption for the residents!

By shutting off all the roads - it makes Surrey 'usable for bikes', but otherwise - it is in my opinion the most cycle unfriendly coounty in the country. I'm more than competent on my bike, and definitely motorist considerate - and even I've got fed up of the "get off the ******** road and why don't you start paying some road taxes ********  *********" Sussex is only marginally better - but then they do have a rather nice, long coastal path to cycle along.

Back in Suffolk, amongst the horse riders, ramblers and tractors - things all seem a little more tranquil - unlike the Coounty of Hurrey - sorry Surrey!  :-X
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Re: A Nice Pad
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2014, 04:08:35 PM »

Tell that to those who organise the annual bike ride for thousands through the county and cause mayhem and disruption for the residents!
That's an exaggeration.  It goes through my village and we are always consulted well in advance and are able to plan accordingly.  Plus it's run in the height of summer when many residents are away on holiday.

The ride made over £7 million for charity last year.  This year the riders endured some terrible weather en route.  I wandered up to the high street for about an hour to cheer on the bedraggled participants.

I have no problem with the ride and with cyclists in general.  They're entitled to use the road and are generally responsible. When I cycle, which is often, I'm respectful of the highway code.  You get the odd jerk, just like with drivers. However, those who cycle truly dangerously eventually end up seriously hurt, or worse, so in my experience it's not common.

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Re: A Nice Pad
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2014, 05:13:30 PM »

Tell that to those who organise the annual bike ride for thousands through the county and cause mayhem and disruption for the residents!
That's an exaggeration. 

Not if you are housebound and dependant on daily visit from the community nurse to administer palliative care. My daughter is such a nurse and due to road closures took three hours to make three calls.

Those dependent on the meals on wheels service were given a ploughman' s lunch the previous day wrapped in clingfilm and told to put in the fridge for the next day.

So if you are not dying and undergoing a pain relief regime or are dependent on a regular square meal the cycle ride is of no inconvenience at all.


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Re: A Nice Pad
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2014, 06:22:49 PM »
That's interesting because charities such as Help the Hospices, Sue Ryder, Macmillan, and the Alzheimer's Society were among the beneficiaries.  I acknowledge that some people may have been inconvenienced but the very organisations that provide support to them were active sponsors and benefitted greatly from the ride.

http://www.prudentialridelondon.co.uk/Charities/Charity_Listing.htm

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Re: A Nice Pad
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2014, 07:04:38 PM »
TDF going through our town was a total pain. Plans had to be revised, visits cut short, long diversions taken, shopping advanced to cover the two days of road closures. Basically we lost two days we shall never get back. It's no wonder people hate selfish cyclists. Cyclists need to race around tracks like cars or motorcycles, if they feel the need to be competitive. Closing public roads in densely populated areas is simply unacceptable.

I ride a bike nearly every day throughout the summer, but I acknowledge that a bicycle is rightly at the very bottom of the road user pecking order and act accordingly.
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Re: A Nice Pad
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2014, 08:04:59 PM »
They closed the roads for two days?  The pro events that come through here (Tour of Britain for example) have rolling road closures which mean that no particular stretch is closed longer than it needs to be to allow the pack through.  It's pretty interesting to watch actually as the police motorcycles seal off each junction about 15 minutes beforehand.  Even for the Olympic road race I don't think the roads were closed more than a six or seven hours.  At any rate there is a difference between poor organisation and "selfish cyclists", whatever that means.  The big cycling events happen because they are popular and bring in money for the local economy and/or for good causes.  As for cycling around tracks, that is indeed a big part of the sport, as Chris Hoy (and now Bradley Wiggins) will attest. 

It doesn't look like I'm going to change anyone's mind but I don't like the unfair stigma that cyclists are given. They have the same rights as motorists to use the roads and for the most part ride responsibly.  Despite this I've had beer cans thrown at me and been cut up and shouted at about "road tax" (which doesn't exist)  - once by someone who was on their mobile phone while driving.   ::)

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Re: A Nice Pad
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2014, 10:28:59 AM »
There is a strange irony with the TdF.

They shut off access to the route 'in good time' to prevent any road users interferring with the race.

I can live with that.

Then they allow the population of a city to walk onto the 'race circuit' making it near impossible for the cyclist to actually keep moving.

It is an irony that has always made me smile. I put it down as a 'french' thing. But like the British obsession for queueing :uglystupid2:
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