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Re: Photo Feedback - Constructive Critique
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2015, 02:05:41 PM »
Hiya jinky it's actually a road bridge so the train is a bit out of question also the vignetting was done on my phone as my laptop died so waiting arrival of a new 1 this week ?I use the Canon 550 the original photo as in colour but I just tried to give it more atmosphere all critique taken on board and my next visit I'll try a slight different angle hopefully with a bit of snow aswell if I can get while it's about
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Re: Photo Feedback - Constructive Critique
« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2015, 02:28:10 PM »
And as for my beloved toon oh dear :'(
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Re: Photo Feedback - Constructive Critique
« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2015, 04:43:11 PM »
Yeah sad days for us Toon fans - as ever!

And therein lies the danger of offering critique on others shots - me not knowing the layout or what I`m talking about  :).
Still think you should have got a train across it though - steam preferable  ;).
I like the mood anyway - lighter than our mood as Toon fans  :D

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Re: Photo Feedback - Constructive Critique
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2015, 11:16:18 PM »

I`m not bothered about triangles and the like and just how an image hits me and trying to guess what the photographer is aiming to portray. Without access to the exif details  and the original I`m left wondering what camera was used  / how it was edited.


I'm not bothered about triangles per se either - they were just a compositional device that in this instance would/could have unified and strengthened the composition, even if the viewer couldn't see exactly how the effect was achieved. Art concealing art, in fact.

To me, the technicalities are relatively worthless. If I wanted technical excellence and complete mastery, I'd only photograph test charts. With real world photographs, what I look for are images that make me think, that make me pause for thought, that make me admire the craft and vision of the photographer. So I simply don't bother about technical points, and knowing what's in the EXIF data won't make a blind bit of difference to how the image actually looks. I honestly don't think you need to know it to be able to see the depth of field, camera shake, exposure errors or noise or grain.

Andy - is there any point in my writing up my notes? You seem to have moved on and I don't want to waste my time if all you want are technical points, because I don't do them (except in passing to indicate how a technical change could have achieved an improved/stronger artistic effect.

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Re: Photo Feedback - Constructive Critique
« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2015, 01:20:36 PM »
all critique taken on board
stephen if there was no point i wouldnt have posted the photo here
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Re: Photo Feedback - Constructive Critique
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2015, 10:10:07 AM »
OK, I'll write and post - but it might be a long post. The reason I wanted to know why you took the photo will need a lengthy explanation in itself. In the meantime, you might like to read this

https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/tutorials/understanding-photographs.112/

It's a chapter from a book I'm writing, and is about understanding photographs. It concludes with a critique of a couple of photographs. Actually, two different critiques, one good, one bad, where the only difference was the starting assumtion as to intent. For present purposes, it's perhaps not quite relevant as the starting points were basically the same in that they ignore most of the different possible reasons for/types of photography, and this should be considered first.

I did read your earlier response as though you'd more or less considered the topic closed; and I have had experience (on another forum) that if you comment on a photo more than a couple of days after it's been posted your comments won't be read because the poster has moved on...

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« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2015, 11:38:19 AM »
Re your "Starting point as to intent". My local camera club recently ran a competition for prints showing a Scottish Landscape. I entered one showing hills and a loch with a castle fairly small in the foreground. I titled it the name of the castle, as it wasn't a well-known one. The judge gave it very low marks. He said that a photo of a castle should have made it more prominent. I'm sure if the title had been "Lochside" or similar it would have scored much better...

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« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2015, 03:56:51 AM »
I took the photo as I liked the look of the view and wanted to show others
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Re: Photo Feedback - Constructive Critique
« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2018, 10:33:23 PM »
Thought I would throw a couple of pictures in here - taken last Saturday at Mira in Nuneaton.





This is actually the winning car

and finally this one.

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Re: Photo Feedback - Constructive Critique
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2018, 02:40:45 PM »
Hi Mark,

I particularly like the top photo of the three.I like the composition and that includes the track snaking away into the distance. The spray behind the car adds a sense of speed and drama. Good colours too.

The other two photos don't work quite as well for me. Nothing wrong with them per se, just not as good as the first for me. I find the wonky sign in the BWM photo a bit of a distraction but I understand that you may not have had the luxury at the time of managing this.

Just my thoughts and I'm certainly no expert. And I'd be pleased if I had taken them, especially the first one.
Good work.
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« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2018, 07:25:47 PM »
I did clone out the sign (Its an arrow telling the driver where the track goes next!) and it does look a lot better - unfortunately I was limited to the position I could move to - and it wasn't possible to get the two shots (The high speed pan down the straight could have been taken from pretty much anywhere that I could access) - and I'm not sure that the tail happy BM could have been taken from a better position.

Not excuses just how it is with motorsport photography - up to about 2/3 years ago I would have been on the grass probably, using a much shorter focal length and not the long end of my 100-400mm.

To be fair, the first one is my favourite from the day - and yes the rain does make it - I have been to Spa 3 times (Not the F1) and the first one it rained and I got much better looking shots than the subsequent years when it was dry.


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Re: Photo Feedback - Constructive Critique
« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2018, 10:01:54 PM »
Great series of photos.  :tup:

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Re: Photo Feedback - Constructive Critique
« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2018, 08:46:59 AM »
Nice set - especially that first one  ;)

 

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