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Software, Editing and Printing => Adobe Photoshop => Topic started by: Sarasocke on August 31, 2009, 03:47:50 PM

Title: line art
Post by: Sarasocke on August 31, 2009, 03:47:50 PM
I asked this question over at DCM but it was a while ago and the post has since disappeared. Dim as I am, I nevery copied out the answer.

I'm making some new T-shirts for our animal rescue with the motto "no outfit is complete without dog hairs" and I'm looking for a picture of a mutt in lineart or a sketch to go with it.

While out with the camera on Sunday I managed to get a couple of pictures of a great dane (and very great he was too !). They're just head shots and they might fit in the shirt motive if they were in lineart or similar.

This would be the chappie in question

(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_danekl.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/danekl.jpg)

Can anyone help ?
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Jonathan on August 31, 2009, 06:54:25 PM
I'm not sure what you're asking......do you need a vector version of this shot?  Or a cutout from the b/g?  Or what?

Lovely pic but you might need to address that shadow before you use the outline.
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Sarasocke on August 31, 2009, 08:36:28 PM
Lineart is like a sketch or cartoon.

Something like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikedougherty/3633078706/ would be perfect, but I can't get hold of the artist to get his permission.

As I can't draw, I thought I'd take a photo of a likely candidate and try to make something like a drawing out of it. I would take the head only, removing the background (and the shadow  ;) ).

I'm really terrible at explaining things ....  ??? Sorry.
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Oldboy on August 31, 2009, 08:58:22 PM
You can do what you want with Photoshop and it's easier if you have a tablet like Wacom's Bamboo A6 graphic tablet which cost about £30.00. See this website for instructions: http://www.melissaclifton.com/tutorial-comicbook3.html

You could also do it with a mouse but it's a bit harder.  ;D
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Sarasocke on August 31, 2009, 09:14:42 PM
Oldboy, that looks like just the job ! Thanks !
I'll have a go tomorrow, when I'm more awake.
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Colin on September 01, 2009, 07:41:18 AM
How about these? I ran it through an artistic filter in CS3, and the second through a pencil filter with the background removed.

Title: Re: line art
Post by: Jonathan on September 01, 2009, 07:49:31 AM
Try here http://www.psgalaxy.com/photoshop-actions/sketch-action.html

You may want to cut the dog out from the b/g first (though it may be easier after the action) and smoosh up the coat a little to remove some of the detail.
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Colin on September 01, 2009, 09:42:11 AM
I have tweaked the pencil one a little more
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Colin on September 01, 2009, 09:55:48 AM
And this one done with Jonathan's suggested action.
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Sarasocke on September 01, 2009, 09:56:14 AM
Colin - thanks !  :tup: I think they may be a little too detailed for my purposes though.

Jonathan - I've tried to download the program, but all that happens is that CS3 is opened empty. I'm new to CS (had PSE up to now), and I'm probably being a little blond....  :doh:
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Hinfrance on September 01, 2009, 01:03:11 PM
I downloaded the action, but I can't work out where the file has to go to actually be useful - pretty standard level of Adobe intuitive interfacing there then . . .
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Jonathan on September 01, 2009, 01:27:16 PM
I downloaded the action, but I can't work out where the file has to go to actually be useful - pretty standard level of Adobe intuitive interfacing there then . . .

Um, you need to double click it........ :)

[There are other more complicated ways of loading actions but I like simple].

Open a pic, scroll to the bottom of your actions palette (alt-F9 if it's not visible), open the folder called "4Sketch etc" (just click on the little triangle next to it - for nerd points it's called a "twistie"), then select the action called sketch and hit play.
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Hinfrance on September 01, 2009, 02:20:14 PM
You're way ahead of me Jonathan. I know how to run it once it appears in the actions list, but I can't get it to appear in the actions list . . I've tried to put the file in presets/actions, but this doesn't work from there. Does it need to go somewhere in the local user settings to be accessible?

Title: Re: line art
Post by: Jonathan on September 01, 2009, 03:12:27 PM
You're way ahead of me Jonathan. I know how to run it once it appears in the actions list, but I can't get it to appear in the actions list . . I've tried to put the file in presets/actions, but this doesn't work from there. Does it need to go somewhere in the local user settings to be accessible?

Um, you need to double click it........ Smiley

I know very little about PCs.  But double clicking a .atn should load it into the actions palette.  If it doesn't then hang on a bit and a PC chappie will be along.
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Sarasocke on September 01, 2009, 04:02:42 PM
I've got it in the actions list, just not sure what "hit play" means. It's always a bit more complicated with me, as everything's in German.

Used Oldboy's link, and managed this

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8002/kloutfitdane.jpg) (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/kloutfitdane.jpg/)

Even that confused me a bit, some things are taken for granted, also she used PS 7 and I have CS3.
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Colin on September 01, 2009, 04:48:03 PM
Once you have double clicked it it appears in CS3's action list or it should appear in the actions list. If it doesn't go to program files>adobe>photoshopcs3>presets>actions and copy it there with your other actions. It will then be in CS3 next time you open it up.
Title: Re: line art
Post by: bones615 on September 01, 2009, 05:17:47 PM
Im using CS, double clicking started photoshop but the action was not there I had to go to load action from the drop down list on the actions pallete.

Simon
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Hinfrance on September 01, 2009, 06:06:33 PM
The file is in the correct directory, but it simply doesn't load into the CS actions list when it is opened.

It was only 'out of curiousity' anyway. Time for an aperitif.
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Oly Paul on September 02, 2009, 09:40:09 AM
I downloaded the action, but I can't work out where the file has to go to actually be useful - pretty standard level of Adobe intuitive interfacing there then . . .

Tringle, simple click on the downward pointing arrow in the actions pallete and from the flyout menu choose "load actions" then navigate to where you stored the downloaded action and job done.

If your talking abour Elements 6 then let me know and I will walk you through it as it is a little more complicated. :)
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Sarasocke on September 02, 2009, 09:58:23 AM
I have it under actions, but I don't know what to do from there. How do I get CS to use the "action" on the photo ? I'm a complete CS novice, I'm afraid.
If there is something similar in PSE6 I'd be really interested too, as I've been using that for some time.

As I said earlier, it's a bit complicated for me as my programs are in German. I have a translation for most terms (thanks forseti :) ) but unfortunately not all.
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Oly Paul on September 02, 2009, 01:40:50 PM
I have it under actions, but I don't know what to do from there. How do I get CS to use the "action" on the photo ? I'm a complete CS novice, I'm afraid.
If there is something similar in PSE6 I'd be really interested too, as I've been using that for some time.

As I said earlier, it's a bit complicated for me as my programs are in German. I have a translation for most terms (thanks forseti :) ) but unfortunately not all.

Click on the action to highlight it then at the bottom of the action pallete click on the play button (triangle button).
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Hinfrance on September 02, 2009, 03:52:54 PM
Cheers Paul - I got the magnifying glass out and found the down arrow. Managed to load it.

I did try to put it into Elements 6.0 following the directions on Ask but it didn't seem to take. I have also got a French version of Elements 7.0 which I understand uses a completely different system for handling actions, so I may have a look at that later.
Title: Re: line art
Post by: DaveB on September 14, 2009, 03:36:07 PM
Hi Sarasocke
Sorry if this is too late. I've sent you an email. I found a spare half hour..... your photo helped.

(http://www.dbracher.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/hounds.jpg)

Also just a linework version too.

(http://www.dbracher.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/hound2s.jpg)
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Simple on September 14, 2009, 05:01:49 PM
 :D
Very Nicely Done!!!
 :tup:
Title: Re: line art
Post by: Sarasocke on September 15, 2009, 04:50:41 PM
Didn't realise you'd also posted here, Dave.
The drawing is just brilliant ! I will certainly be able to use it.

I haven't been in the forum for a bit due to our big open day (animal rescue) last saturday. I'm still getting over it ... ;)
Title: Re: line art
Post by: DaveB on September 16, 2009, 09:49:45 AM
Only joined recently.