Camera Craniums

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: alan1572 on May 27, 2010, 09:06:15 PM

Title: camera....all gone.
Post by: alan1572 on May 27, 2010, 09:06:15 PM
over the last few weeks i've been snapping away at the birds in my garden and while i've been very busy with work family and wot-not i have been trying to find the time for photography. That's not a problem at the moment as some little scrote has broken into our home while my wife, middle daughter and i were a sleep and stole a few items, one of which were the keys to our car and my camera, now i find i have the time but no camera, i'm seriously pissed off.
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Post by: hevans on May 27, 2010, 09:14:13 PM
over the last few weeks i've been snapping away at the birds in my garden and while i've been very busy with work family and wot-not i have been trying to find the time for photography. That's not a problem at the moment as some little scrote has broken into our home while my wife, middle daughter and i were a sleep and stole a few items, one of which were the keys to our car and my camera, now i find i have the time but no camera, i'm seriously pissed off.

Same thing happened to me about 15 years ago. That's when the insurance stumped up and I changed the FM to an F90. Ok, this was the days of film, but .... I still miss the FM.

Anyway, I know how you feel, commiserations.

Hugh
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Post by: alan1572 on May 27, 2010, 09:19:34 PM
the police aren't sure if they came for the car and took the hifi and camera or came for the hifi and then drove it off in my car....either way it sucks.
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Post by: minky_monkey on May 27, 2010, 09:28:52 PM
 :'(

Scumbags.
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Post by: Eileen on May 27, 2010, 09:40:53 PM
 >:( Very sorry to hear your news Alan.
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Post by: Oldboy on May 27, 2010, 10:38:09 PM
Now, every time the sun shines, your trigger finger will twitch.  :'(

Sorry about that, and if/when they are caught it will be a slap on the wrist!  >:( >:(
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Post by: Malcolm1938 on May 27, 2010, 10:41:02 PM
Alan

You have a PM

Malcolm
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Post by: alan1572 on May 27, 2010, 11:21:37 PM
the worst of it is that the insurance are convinced we left the conservatory doors open and they may not replace the items >:(
we were in bed at the time
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Post by: Hinfrance on May 28, 2010, 06:12:08 AM
How awful for you.

I hope they find the people who did this and prosecute them.

You may need to trot down the CAB - your car insurers might prove difficult too.
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Post by: Sandy on May 28, 2010, 07:17:56 AM
Thats really bad, I hope they do replace the camera

Sandy
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Post by: Jonathan on May 28, 2010, 07:49:40 AM
 :wtf: :'(
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Post by: Mick on May 28, 2010, 10:00:00 AM
Terrible news Alan.  I hope you get this sorted out soon.

Do these digital cameras actually embed the serial numbers in the files somewhere so you can trace them if uploaded to the web.  If not they should.
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Post by: Alfonso_Frisk on May 28, 2010, 10:04:25 AM
the worst of it is that the insurance are convinced we left the conservatory doors open and they may not replace the items >:(
we were in bed at the time

Have the police said the same ? why would they say this if not? afterall I presume you already have crime number.
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Post by: Jonathan on May 28, 2010, 10:27:21 AM
Terrible news Alan.  I hope you get this sorted out soon.

Do these digital cameras actually embed the serial numbers in the files somewhere so you can trace them if uploaded to the web.  If not they should.

Yes.  At any rate Nikons do.  I suspect most do.

Obviously save for web removes it....
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Post by: Sarasocke on May 28, 2010, 12:05:08 PM
Alan, what a nightmare!

Fingers are crossed that it gets sorted - either the insurance coughs up or they catch the culprits.
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Post by: jinky on May 28, 2010, 12:17:21 PM
So sorry to hear this Alan. Good luck with the insurers - they can be as bad as the robbers  >:(
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Post by: picsfor on May 28, 2010, 05:50:36 PM
Yes, most definitely bad luck and hope you're able to get it resolved successfully.
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Post by: nickt on May 28, 2010, 09:25:32 PM
The irony is that they won't know the value of the camera and lenses etc and sell them cheap. It's the same when tools get nicked.These low lifes sell a 400 pound drill for 20 quid. Lucky for some one else but not for me.

Nick
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Post by: jimthetrain on May 28, 2010, 09:43:39 PM
You have my uppermost sympathy Alan. It's frightening to think that they entered your property when you were in bed.  :o A confrontation might have led to some nasty consequences.
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Post by: spinner on May 28, 2010, 10:25:43 PM
the worst of it is that the insurance are convinced we left the conservatory doors open and they may not replace the items >:(
we were in bed at the time

Have the police said the same ? why would they say this if not? afterall I presume you already have crime number.


Two things must be listed on the Police Report, point of entry and evidence of forced. Two red flags for an insurance co. I used to socialize with a Claims adjuster manager before the family moved away. Nice guy, had some funny stories and some interesting ones. But what became clear to me and has been confirmed over the years. The insurance co.'s will look for any excuse at all not to pay a claim. And they're worse than City Hall you can't fight them either.
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Post by: Alfonso_Frisk on May 28, 2010, 11:14:22 PM
So the question is-
was the door left open overnight ?
if so the insurance does become invalid. Its crazy because a theft still took place and a families personal space has been violated. There would have been a way around getting the claim verified but its too late for that now.
I know a chap who left his car running whilst he went into the paper shop. Of course it went missing within minuites and was found torched 3 days later.He never got a penny.
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Post by: spinner on May 28, 2010, 11:23:24 PM
Unfortunately, with the insurance people it's more of case of, prove the door was locked. If you can't they'll say it was your carelessness.
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Post by: irv_b on May 29, 2010, 01:03:18 PM
Sorry to hear of your bad fortune Alan - I've had tools nicked out the back of my van before and there is no worse feeling than finding out that the insurance wont pay out on a genuine claim
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Post by: alan1572 on May 30, 2010, 01:26:51 PM
The good(ish) news is that the CID found forced entry marks on the inside of the door where he said they use like a stiff metal coat hanger to flip the catches up once they have put enough pressure on the doors, so i hope this will help with the insurance co.
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Post by: Alfonso_Frisk on May 30, 2010, 01:30:14 PM
That is good news alan. You should be now able to claim everything
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Post by: alan1572 on May 30, 2010, 01:30:37 PM
Terrible news Alan.  I hope you get this sorted out soon.

Do these digital cameras actually embed the serial numbers in the files somewhere so you can trace them if uploaded to the web.  If not they should.

Yes.  At any rate Nikons do.  I suspect most do.

Obviously save for web removes it....

i hope that whatever save for web is the scumbags don't know about it, but i would imagine it will be who ever they sell it to that will get caught out.
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Post by: picsfor on May 30, 2010, 01:41:38 PM
oddly enough, every picture taken has the cameras details embedded into the side car file.
Mine also have my name added as the author - but this can only be done with Canon software though i believe Nikon has the same offering.

That said, i do not think these details are searchable via the web - only when the picture is opened with suitable software that can read xmp files etc.
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Post by: Forseti on May 30, 2010, 05:07:47 PM
If you select 'All' in Lightroom's metadata panel it should show you the S/N of the camera directly under the Make. Or at least it does for all the Canon cameras that I have used. It's also available to view in IEXIF Viewer although it's highly improbable that you'll be able to locate an image taken with your camera from those posted on the web.

With the 7D (and probably other later Canon cameras) you now can add copyright/owner details directly from the camera itself which then appears in the EXIF data of all images taken with the camera.
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Post by: alan1572 on May 30, 2010, 10:18:25 PM
oddly enough, every picture taken has the cameras details embedded into the side car file.
Mine also have my name added as the author - but this can only be done with Canon software though i believe Nikon has the same offering.

That said, i do not think these details are searchable via the web - only when the picture is opened with suitable software that can read xmp files etc.

so would i have to know that a snap was taken with my camera in order to check it?
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Post by: picsfor on May 31, 2010, 07:00:19 AM
oddly enough, every picture taken has the cameras details embedded into the side car file.
Mine also have my name added as the author - but this can only be done with Canon software though i believe Nikon has the same offering.

That said, i do not think these details are searchable via the web - only when the picture is opened with suitable software that can read xmp files etc.

so would i have to know that a snap was taken with my camera in order to check it?

simply put - yes! And you would need to be able to open the files details in Bridge, Aperture, LR, PSP or similar.

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Post by: alan1572 on May 31, 2010, 09:34:52 PM
i wonder how long it would take to check every online photo....better set aside a couple of hours >:(
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Post by: alan1572 on July 12, 2010, 10:57:08 AM
Terrible news Alan.  I hope you get this sorted out soon.

Do these digital cameras actually embed the serial numbers in the files somewhere so you can trace them if uploaded to the web.  If not they should.

can you tell me how to fine the embedded serial number?
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Post by: Jonathan on July 12, 2010, 05:00:07 PM
can you tell me how to fine the embedded serial number?

It's buried in the exif.

If you have Lightroom then in the Library module, scroll down to the metadata section and choose "Exif".  If you have Photoshop open the file, hit file info and look in the "raw data" tab.  It's in XML but it's easy to read.

If you have neither then get a decent Exif reader.
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Post by: anglefire on July 12, 2010, 09:32:55 PM
For windows, you'd be hard pressed to improve on opanda's iexif for IE - they do a freeware version, which would be fine for your purposes.
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Post by: alan1572 on July 14, 2010, 11:48:48 PM
i'm on a mac with ps
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Post by: picsfor on July 15, 2010, 11:27:31 AM
if you've got Photoshop - then you've got Bridge, and that shows the information you want.
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Post by: alan1572 on July 15, 2010, 12:17:44 PM
so i can open up any photo on the web and check?......doesn't bare thinking about
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Post by: Graham on July 15, 2010, 05:12:26 PM
so i can open up any photo on the web and check?......doesn't bare thinking about
        I'm not really qualified to answer this but I believe it depends on how the pic is prepared for the web.
        I understand that most auto resizing systems (Or whatever they'er called :-[) strip out most of the data. Iv'e just downloaded a pic out of my own gallery, opened it in Bridge and can see my camera serial number, but then I resize my pics manually.
        I downloaded one of yours, opened it and there is very little info available.
        I would be very interested to know if my assumption is correct.
                      Graham.

PS  Iv'e deleted your pic of my hard drive.
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Post by: alan1572 on July 15, 2010, 06:32:05 PM
so i can open up any photo on the web and check?......doesn't bare thinking about
       

PS  Iv'e deleted your pic of my hard drive.
it would have only been wasting space ;D
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Post by: Malcolm1938 on July 15, 2010, 09:16:59 PM
Just as a matter of interest did the insurance ever say OK.

Malcolm
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Post by: alan1572 on July 17, 2010, 05:02:11 PM
 they have accepted that i owned it (nice of them) but are dragging their feet and i have no idea when they will send a replacement