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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: spinner on January 27, 2010, 11:54:39 PM

Title: bibble pro 5
Post by: spinner on January 27, 2010, 11:54:39 PM
Anyone else played around with bibble? Is it just me, or is the interface less than intuitive and the manual deficient?
Title: Re: bibble pro 5
Post by: picsfor on January 28, 2010, 12:52:53 AM
What's a manual?  :D

Does any one what where you find one of those in Adobe software?  :tup:
Title: Re: bibble pro 5
Post by: Hinfrance on January 28, 2010, 06:23:50 AM
What's a manual?  :D

Does any one what where you find one of those in Adobe software?  :tup:

I don't think so Andrew, and that of course is one of the MAJOR problems with Adobe software. It's completely illogical and has no instructions.

I've been playing with Bibble Pro 5 and although it is much faster than LR it is not as developed as it should be. The interface is I think brilliant - the tabbed editing is something LR should have had long ago. And layers are a neat trick for a RAW editor.

LR has many more input/output tools, which is where its workflow strengths lie.

BUT Bibble 5 does not yet support many of the features that made Bibble 4 such a good RAW editor. Even the 'killer' plugin 'Perfectly Clear' is not implemented.

Maybe 5.1, if it recovers the functions of 4.10, will be worth a longer look.
Title: Re: bibble pro 5
Post by: anglefire on January 28, 2010, 05:56:48 PM
I downloaded the trial a couple of weeks ago and I quite liked it - though I am so used to ACR now that it is hard to be objective when new software comes along.

The help files from memory were pretty good - better than Adobes for sure!

I thought the layers idea really good - the fact that you can do ANY adjustment on a layer is brilliant and not just the limited ones with the adjustment brush in ACR.

But for me, its not worth the asking price at the moment!
Title: Re: bibble pro 5
Post by: Hinfrance on January 28, 2010, 06:38:01 PM
I agree with Mark - it's not there yet. I think I will invest in the 'Lite' version when it is available, but the price for the 'Pro' version is too high for where it is at the moment.
Title: Re: bibble pro 5
Post by: spinner on January 28, 2010, 11:35:17 PM
Well, maybe I'm thick. I don't see away to do something, like crop and have a finished product that I can look at without say, the guide lines still being visible, or the part I cropped out going away, unless I actually save the file, at which time I have to reopen it to look at how it turned out. I'm too used to having the the maximize, minimize, close buttons showing. I searched the manual specifically for instructions on how to close a file and couldn't find any.
Title: Re: bibble pro 5
Post by: Hybridphotog on January 29, 2010, 12:55:43 AM
I tried a version of Bibble some time ago, and found it both bulky, unstable and had an overall confused layout.

I've since found Ufraw, basically a GUI for Dcraw, which integrates nicely into GIMP.
Title: Re: bibble pro 5
Post by: Hinfrance on January 29, 2010, 06:27:53 AM
Well, maybe I'm thick. I don't see away to do something, like crop and have a finished product that I can look at without say, the guide lines still being visible, or the part I cropped out going away, unless I actually save the file, at which time I have to reopen it to look at how it turned out. I'm too used to having the the maximize, minimize, close buttons showing. I searched the manual specifically for instructions on how to close a file and couldn't find any.

You're right, you can't make the crop grid go away - this is one of the reasons why I think it's not finished yet. You can't close a file in Bibble any more than you can in LR, because the file is never actually 'open', you just move the display on to the next image. The minimise, maximise and fit buttons are on the toolbar beneath the image by default.

Hybrid - Bibble 4 certainly had a weird interface out of the box, but at least it works with Linux. UFRaw is everso good at what it does, but very basic. In fairness, probably all you will need. Personally I still find GIMP is a long way short of a fully function editor - how long has it been since adjustment layers were promised? And it is still 8 bit - last update I did anyway.