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Title: Bigma probs
Post by: Bigbill on October 04, 2009, 03:10:06 PM
Hewwo from sunny Sheffy,

Errrrmm,,,,wheres the AF/MF switch on the damn Bigma lens,,cant find it,cant get any focus response at all ??

Your help greatly appreciated.

Shine On

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Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: bones615 on October 04, 2009, 04:59:46 PM
Left hand side, close to the camera body. (Canon version if that matters)

Simon
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Graham on October 04, 2009, 05:31:25 PM
   Bill.
         Sorry, can't help with the "Bigma" issue, but can I just say;
                       THREE - NILL!
                           Graham. ;D (From Derby.)
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Bigbill on October 04, 2009, 05:53:25 PM
Oh deary dear,,,,,,,
i ask for help and guidance over a very irritating issue,,and what do i get,,,,,,infantile reference to a very lucky and undeserved hollow victory,,we may have got beated by 3 goals to nil,but we played by far the better football,not only that,we were very unlucky not to score on at least 68 occasions !!!!

Actualy,we were C R A P and DC played very well indeed,fully deserved the win,and good luck to them, !!!!!

On this particular Bigma,there is no mf/af switch anywhere on the lens at all,and i,m now stuck as to what to do next,money well spent !

Shine On
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Oldboy on October 04, 2009, 07:05:28 PM
Quote from: Bigbill on October 04, 2009, 05:53:25 PM

On this particular Bigma,there is no mf/af switch anywhere on the lens at all,and i,m now stuck as to what to do next,money well spent !

Shine On

No MF/AF switch on mine, just the converter lock switch, which locks it at 100mm when using a converter. Using the switch by the lens release button you can put it into manual or auto.  ;D
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Bigbill on October 04, 2009, 07:25:48 PM

Now i,m going to seem really thick,.,,which switch by the lens release button,,,there does not seem to be one ???

Thanks

bill stewardson
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: wee jake on October 04, 2009, 07:46:48 PM
I think Old Boy is referring to the switch on the camera next to the lens release button. The bigma does not have an auto/manual switch on it. Sorry to hear about your team loosing 3-0. Ian
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Mick on October 04, 2009, 08:00:10 PM
The Canon fit version of the Bigma has a AF/M focus switch next to the lens mount, as mine does. 

The Nikon fit version I haven't a clue though.  ???
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Bigbill on October 04, 2009, 08:13:54 PM
Hewwo from padded cell number 47

Now then,thanks OB,,,yahhhh,,,,the fold out sheet that came with this lens says there is a mf/af switch,which there is not,,,i was meaning on the lens,
i cannot get any sort of AF response at all,,,,regardless of camera settings,yet,it fires everytime in manual and every shot is way out of focus,,,the focusing ring is making absolutely no difference at all,,
feel like chucking it in the bloody canal now,,,,,

As for SWFC,,,,,more mid table mediocrity awaits,plus,we have dracula at centre half(frightened of crosses)

Thanks to all

Shine On
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: skellum on October 04, 2009, 08:48:42 PM
I once had a Sigma 24-70 which you had to push the barrel backwards & forwards as a switch. Can't say any more my Bigma is a Canon Fit like Micks and the swich is on the side.
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Oldboy on October 04, 2009, 09:23:05 PM
Quote from: Bigbill on October 04, 2009, 08:13:54 PM
Hewwo from padded cell number 47

Now then,thanks OB,,,yahhhh,,,,the fold out sheet that came with this lens says there is a mf/af switch,which there is not,,,i was meaning on the lens,
i cannot get any sort of AF response at all,,,,regardless of camera settings,yet,it fires everytime in manual and every shot is way out of focus,,,the focusing ring is making absolutely no difference at all,,
feel like chucking it in the bloody canal now,,,,,


Thanks to all

Shine On

Well, in that case Bill it looks like the F number switch is set on other than F22. The dial goes from F4 to F22 but to get auto-focus it has to be set to F22. Push the button up, towards the main lens length, and move the dial to F22 and lock it by moving the switch back towards the camera body. It should now work in auto-focus.  ;D
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Simple on October 04, 2009, 09:58:45 PM
The Bigma DG HSM D has only the lock button for focal length as Oldboy explained in the NIKON version. The Aperture ring has to be at F22 otherwise it will not work. The camera will show you on display flashing fEE when in any other aperture instead of Shutter speed and Aperture.
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Bigbill on October 04, 2009, 10:11:35 PM
Thanks to all for the above,,,,,,
Cant beging to state how much i wish i had not bought this damn lens,,,,,
Aperture ring ???? must be my Blonde day,,,cant find it,,,,,,,but thanks for the suggestion,,,
i,m off Weds,,lens will be going back to Js first thing,

Shine On
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Oldboy on October 04, 2009, 10:38:01 PM
Quote from: Bigbill on October 04, 2009, 10:11:35 PM
Thanks to all for the above,,,,,,
Cant beging to state how much i wish i had not bought this damn lens,,,,,
Aperture ring ???? must be my Blonde day,,,cant find it,,,,,,,but thanks for the suggestion,,,
i,m off Weds,,lens will be going back to Js first thing,

Shine On
At the base of the lens, next to the contacts, is the aperture ring and the lock is just past the F4.  ;D
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: John Doyle2 on October 04, 2009, 11:34:48 PM
C'mon oldboy, send him a photograph of the lens!! :)
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Simple on October 05, 2009, 01:21:16 PM
LOL, I have had this lens for years and never realised there was a lock button for the aperture.
THANKS Oldboy.
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: oRGie on October 05, 2009, 01:42:34 PM
out of curiosity, whats the lock for ?
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Simple on October 05, 2009, 03:54:04 PM
It locks the Aperture at the smallest opening f22. As with most lenses with an aperture ring, this is the setting required for the camera to control the aperture.
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Bigbill on October 06, 2009, 09:55:59 AM
Hewwo from Rainy Sheffy

Now then,after 643 mental breakdowns,it turns out this lens aint what it says on the tin,,its a bloody Pentax fit !!
So,tomorrow morning i shall be materialising in Js,,not sure what they can do,they have however told me that the Bigma has now been discontinued,,,,,,
I will let you know how this pans out,,just hope it hasnt had any detrimental effect on my beloved D300.

Shine Off
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Oldboy on October 06, 2009, 10:32:14 AM
Quote from: Bigbill on October 06, 2009, 09:55:59 AM
Hewwo from Rainy Sheffy

Now then,after 643 mental breakdowns,it turns out this lens aint what it says on the tin,,its a bloody Pentax fit !!
So,tomorrow morning i shall be materialising in Js,,not sure what they can do,they have however told me that the Bigma has now been discontinued,,,,,,
I will let you know how this pans out,,just hope it hasnt had any detrimental effect on my beloved D300.

Shine Off

It's still listed on Sigma's website, and that has been redesigned in the past four weeks.  ;D
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: greypoint on October 06, 2009, 11:16:52 AM
Can you mount Pentax lenses on a Nikon then??
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Oldboy on October 06, 2009, 11:35:28 AM
Quote from: greypoint on October 06, 2009, 11:16:52 AM
Can you mount Pentax lenses on a Nikon then??

Yes, but it appears they don't work!  :2funny:
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: greypoint on October 06, 2009, 12:08:46 PM
Never knew that :o
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Bigbill on October 07, 2009, 11:54:21 AM
Hewwo from fed up Sheffy,,,,

Js looked at the Bigma,tried it on various bodies,back to Japan it goes,,,,4 to 6 weeks waiting time,,,,,,
Complete focus failure,,,,,and its not the lens it should have been,,apart form that all is well !!!

Shine Off
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: anglefire on October 08, 2009, 06:28:23 PM
Surely your consumer rights mean that you can just get a new one or your money back
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Bigbill on October 08, 2009, 07:22:49 PM
Hewwo from chilly Sheffy,,,,

Thing is,,as far as Js are concerned,there are no more of this particular lens,,and,,this issue is far from closed,,,,when it finaly returns,and IF its in good nick,i will be saying to Js that they still sold me an inferior quality item,,,then we shall see,,,,,
Also,,i would struggle to get it at the price that Js were selling it at,,,,,,many hundreds of pounds less than anywhere else.

Shine On
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Bigbill on October 22, 2009, 04:16:45 PM
Hewwo from very annoyed Sheffy,

I,m almost sorry to drag this post back to life,however,today i got a letter from Js informing me that the lens was "damaged due to Barrel Impact,and the CHARGEABLE cost of repair is £159.78",
you can probably guess my feelings regrding this,fact is,this damn lens was sent to Js in Sheffy from Js Plymouth,and was faulty the moment i took it from the box.
So,i went straight to the shop,where the lady who sold me the lens was not at all impressed,and phoned her RBM,who informed her that i HAD to take a refund,,,,which i refused.
Ive told them i want a replacement,that i dont think it rerasonable to put the onus for any fault on me,and i now wish for all communication re this issue to be in writing only.
Me thinks i will end up taking this to court,ive not even started on the effect this has had on my business,,ie not being able to work in the way i wished due to the damn lens being duff,,,,
So,though i have sympathy with the staff at Js Sheffy,,,,,,its now an adversarial issue !
Just thought you would all like to know,i will post as and when things do or dont move.

Shine Off
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Hinfrance on October 22, 2009, 05:46:44 PM
Sounds like an absolute nightmare Bill. No wonder you couldn't find the usual Nikon controls on the lens itself - all the Pentax gubbins are in the camera body; I'm amazed that the bayonet fitted.

I don't think you will have hurt your body, other than making it upset about not being able to talk to the lens.

I've got my fingers crossed for you that you get the resolution that you want (and deserve, quite frankly).

Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Oldboy on October 22, 2009, 07:19:23 PM
Quote from: Bigbill on October 22, 2009, 04:16:45 PM
Hewwo from very annoyed Sheffy,

So,i went straight to the shop,where the lady who sold me the lens was not at all impressed,and phoned her RBM,who informed her that i HAD to take a refund,,,,which i refused.

Under the Sale of Goods Act they have to give you a full refund. No ifs no buts so the RBM was talking out of his/her A*se. As you couldn't use the lens with your camera, i.e. wrong fittings, I think they may have a problem to say you damaged the lens. Speak to the people at your local CAB who will take to case up for you if required.  :tup:
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Bigbill on October 22, 2009, 07:38:45 PM
Thanks to all for the above,,,,,i,m TOTALY cheesed off with all this,,,,just want a bloody 500mm lens for less than coast of a a good 2nd hand car,,,,,
However,,,,the BIG q,,can i force them to provide a replacement(they claim there are none,ie they have been discontinued) or do i HAVE to accept a refund-which i dont want to do,they sold it to me for £700,,cheapest replacement i can find is over a grand-which i think is the route cause of the problem,,,,,ive always spoken up for Js,,,,errrm,,,,,,maybe that was a mistake !!
Any good advice gratefuly accpted !

Shine Off
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Hinfrance on October 22, 2009, 07:56:36 PM
You'll probably have to take a refund under the SOGA.

You could seek 'specific performance' for which you'll need a solicitor. This is a remedy that requires the other party to do what they agreed to do - in your case provide a Nikon fit bigma. If they can't they are liable for damages. In all honesty, although this is technically a solution available to you, in practice it is not likely to get very far in the face of a full refund offer.

Wish you all the best with it.

Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Bigbill on October 22, 2009, 09:01:12 PM
Hewwo from fed up Sheffy !!

Thanks Tringle,,,you have probably saved me a load of hassle there,,,,,,
A refund it shall now have to be !

Shine Off
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Bigbill on November 04, 2009, 08:42:42 AM
Hewwo from Cold Sheffy,
An update on the above fun and games,,,,,ive now had Js phone me at home twice ,to inform me that i HAVE to accept the refund,
however,various people(BFP included) are of a different opinion,seemingly,Js should have provided a replacement when i 1st took the lens back in for repair,
So,i,m now well beyond accepting a repair,replacement or equivalent lens,my feeling is this issue will go to court,
Js have had more than enough time and opportunity,and have not moved one inch.
The BFP(of which i am a member support my view--PLEASE JOIN THIS ORGANISATION),
So Js may now have some explaining,their "we cant replace because its been discontinued" is laughable,i contacted Sigma,who are surprised to learn that its discontinued !!!
I will post again when anything happens,its not for me to put people off using Js,but,please be cautios.

Shine On

wear a Poppy with Pride (please)
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: picsfor on November 04, 2009, 08:55:31 AM
Quote from: Bigbill on November 04, 2009, 08:42:42 AM
The BFP(of which i am a member support my view--PLEASE JOIN THIS ORGANISATION),
wear a Poppy with Pride (please)

Always have been since i discovered it - useful in many ways for photographers

Good luck with your lens problems.
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Bigbill on November 09, 2009, 09:44:45 AM
Hewwo from Chilly Sheffy,,,

Had enough,threw the towel in,,,,could have dragged it on and on,suppose i just got fed up,
got my money back and bought the 120-400mm with which i,m very pleased,
as for Js,be a long time before they get any of my money.

Shine On
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: picsfor on November 09, 2009, 10:06:00 AM
glad you have 'a resolution' to this issue - even if it s not the desired one.

From a cold wintry Brighton
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Hinfrance on November 09, 2009, 12:56:14 PM
I'm glad you are happy with the new lens. In honesty it was always going to be a probably unsuccessful uphill struggle to do more than get your money back.

Look forward to seeing some pictures from the new lens.
Title: Re: Bigma probs
Post by: Simon on December 22, 2009, 10:27:26 PM
Does your Bigma say DG anywhere near the model name on the side? Mine is the original 50-500 and does not have an AF/M switch at all. I am on a Nikon mount. The new 150-500 (much cheaper) has both AF/M switch and image stabiliser....