Firstly, it`s a weighty old beast. Definitely feels heavier than my 40D.
Now, I`ve not tried it out in anger yet but intend to this weekend. First impressions that hit you are the quality, brightness and size of the viewfinder. It`s certainly the best I seen. That along with the screen quality (one of my pet dislikes about the 40D I`ve upgraded from) have made me a very happy bunny.
There`s a few choices of AF. Spot AF (which focuses on a tiny area), Single Point AF 19 points individually selectable, AF point expansion (you chose the point, and the adjacent points are also used to track moving subjects, Zone AF where the points are made into 5 selectable groups and a 19 point automatic AF selection.
It took me a good while to work out how to use the AF, and TBH I don`t think I`ve got there yet. As I say, I`ve not used it properly so can`t say yet how well it tracks a moving subject.
One thing to note, for someone like me this camera is going to represent a large learning curve, so don`t take my word as gospel I`m learning as I`m going along and writing as I see it at the time! This thread should be seen as a work in progress..
One thing I do love is just how customisable the camera is, there seems to be an option for just about everything. And I`m going to have to upgrade my CF cards, 140 shots on a 4gig isn`t enough!
There`s a few neat touches, I like the ability to overlay a grid in the viewfinder without having to change a focussing screen. Whether the electronic level proves to be more than a gimic I don`t know, but it could certainly prove useful.
I`ve also yet to try out triggering flashes yet, that`s next on the agenda.
To be continued...
Took the 7D out to Margate yesterday to see my local team, Kingstonian.
I think I`m officially in love with this camera! The high resolution allows for much harsher cropping without losing detail.
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e164/minky_monkey/IMG_0298.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e164/minky_monkey/IMG_02981.jpg)
Both images have had a marginal amount of sharpening, and the contrast has been up`d a little.
The screen instantly allows you to see whether the shot is sharp enough.
In terms of tracking and AF, footy isn`t really going to test the camera like wildlife, but it worked fine for me. I initially used an individual focus point, but found that spot AF (which locks onto a much smaller area) worked much better.
One issue has come up though, this camera really shows up poorer quality glass! I`ve got a tamron 28-70 2.8 and the difference in quality of the shots between that, and my 70-200 F4 L IS is enormous. So it looks like I`m going to have to upgrade my walkabout lens soon.
Oh yup, the ISO perfomance is excellent. I was shooting quite happily at 1000-1600 when the light dropped off in the second half with no issues.
Thanks for doing this thread, I must admit I am impressed with what I've seen of the camera in reviews and youtube bits. Some good vids about setting up the wireless flash functions if your interested mm.
I know quite a lot of 5D users never bother with vid, but I think if I had the option there are times when short vids would make a great addition to the photo record of days out, events etc.
Interesting what you say about the glass issue, I havent noticed that said in reviews yet, I wonder if all the ef-s lenses will suffer on the 7D, not because of fov/sensor size, but the glass used to a budget on the cheaper ef-s range... hmm, I am hoping the 18-200ef-s I have will be ok lol, not that I plan to buy a 7D just now, but I have a feeling the desire is going to nag and grow on me :D
I would really like a ff cam, but the 5D was a bit specific in its design for an everyday camera for me, the 7D really hits the buttons. I am thinking now that a second hand 5D mark1 would fill that desire later on.
I am forgetting a basic principle about lenses, of course an L series is going to give a better image, it would on a 350D, a 50D and no doubt on a 7D :) so I expect I will be happy with the 18-200ef-s as my walkaround lens, untill ! I get an L series lol
Of course an L will give a better quality image than a cheaper lens, but I`ve used this lens on a 40D and the difference was less noticable.
On the 7, there`s a world of difference.
It was the same story on the 50D, because of the higher MP a lot of people found that you really needed decent glass on it. Mind you, it`s a waste spending all this dosh on a body and using cheap lenses.
There are a few Ef-s lenses that would be good enough - the 60mm macro is L in every way apart from the red ring - and the 17-55 (Think thats the one!) gets exceptional reviews, so that should be good too.
Mind you, neither are budget lenses either!
I did notice the shot posted was ISO1000 - certainly can't complain! Looks very similar to my MkIII, which is very useable upto 2500 and with some help way beyond that!
Its not a body on my radar, but it does fill a hole for many!
Look forward to reading some more!
I decided to push the ISO as the light started to drop to see how well it coped, I`ve not used any NR software on it at all. It`s certainly all I could`ve wanted.
The 17-55mm would be the one on my radar, although I might pick up a Canon 24-70 2.8 they`ve dropped a little in price so I might keep an eye out for a good used one in a few months.
Like you MM coming from a 40D it does feel hefty,the 15-85 is also quite a best, I had no idea how heavy that would be, expecting ef-s lightness, this lens is a different animal altogether. havent had a chance to see what it does, so will post over the days with some samples. Initial reaction is that its not as well designed as the 40D in terms of handling !! I now its heavier and new to me, but after 10 minutes holding it going through the menu's and settings I allready felt the effect of the new grip erganomics.. They have made the grip a bit thinner to make it feel more secure in your fingers, they certainly got that right as even with my fingers relaxed it doesnt want to drop from my hand, very clever, but! its got sharper edges + the extra weight actually makes it a lot less comfortable than the 40D grip. Still I am sure I will get used to it.
Also, I would say that in terms of build quality it is a shade behind that of the 40D! Its just little things, the cf card slot door feels more plasticy than the door on the 40d and the edge of it is a little sharp, a bit like the mouldings you find on toys.. how can I put it, its allmost like I can feel its been made in china instead of japan! even though it is made in japan, well maybe the door isnt :) Apart from that the coatings and finish on the rest of the body is superb, very nice tactile feel.
The menus and stuff all seem very nice, look fantastic on the screen, logical etc..
The Af squares are a bit ott, very large boxes and they obscure the view much more than i would like, mind thats using it in dim indoor light, perhaps it will make more sense in the daylight. I hope they offer a firmware to enable one to choose af box sizes at some point :)
Played with the video for a few minutes, (didnt bother with wb as you can see) here's a sample, 3200 iso, having a usm lens is very handy as you can manual focus which is much faster than the camera will.. worth watching in HD and full screen, this is going to fun I think, not like making video's, more like beautiful moving photographs if that makes sense..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7zpfb8Fw1k
Looking forward to the weekend..... now, blot on the landscape, hmmm
hehe, just playing around, under desk lamp.. I think I am going to like this lens :)
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_7Dtest_0012.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/7Dtest_0012.jpg)
Handheld at 1/25 iso800 f5 50mm no flash
interesting video, dog was most patient - although appeared to be questioning your sanity.
Then i spotted all the the 'scrubs' video clips and i was gone.... (sorry)
Keep the updates coming oRGie as I too am leaning towards the 7D. The only trouble is I am more than satisfied with my current 40D and am not usually one who purchases on impulse. It's the video feature that attracts me - not everyone's cup of tea I know but since owning the SX1 I am now able to produce DVD's of special events that contain not only images but short clips as well.
A couple of questions :-* (1) did you upload the original camera recorded file to YouTube or did you convert it to an AVI file first? (2) if you did convert it to AVI (or any other format) what converter are you using? (3) well there isn't a question 3 really but any additional info would be appreciated as recent searches on the web indicate that there is an awful lot of confusion/methods used etc which is to be expected as DSLR's with video capability are still relatively new.
Just for info, I use Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum in the production of DVD's (comprising still images and movie clips) which accepts the strange H.264 codecs used by Canon (and others) which is further wrapped in a QT container. I also use Any Video Converter' for converting these H.264 files to AVI format accepting the drop in final quality for non important clips but with the advantage of much smaller file sizes It's all extremely confusing to a non video expert - and neither do I want to be - but believe you me, this movie capability can be somewhat addictive. :'(
I don't think the dog is impressed oRGie! :2funny:
Lil Bonnie isnt one for modelling duties, soon as my eye goes behind the viewfinder she goes all shy, looks away or slinks away lol... She does that head tilting thing when you speak to her and she doesnt recognise the words as commands, it is particularly cute :)
What are Scrubs videos ?
Forseti, I know what you mean, I am the same, have an interest in making short clips but it is a very complicated process. I have premiere and have downloaded loads of different converters over time and must admit I havent really worked out a great workflow. I see some great quality clips on youtube, but I'll be damned if I can work out how to get the compression right to achieve good quality and small file sizes. So many options for rates, size, compression codecs etc..
So you can upload the .MOV to youtube and the site does a great job reducing the size, but for this clip I was testing out zoombrowser, I havent played long enough to work out the editing functions, but I used it to kill the sound and it let me save the project as an avi. The avi it produced was compressed, went from 130mb .MOV to 80mb avi and looking at the 2 files I dont see very much loss of quality.
I am quite happy that canon supply a software solution in the box that lets you use the clips and for me it will probably be enough of a tool for simple editing and adding soundtracks once I work out the controls. Once I master that hopefully I will have learned enough to let me use premiere. I can use premiere for editing and such, but it makes the final saving and compression choices etc very complex and thats where I can undone with premiere.
I've read quite a few comments saying vegas is a good powerfull editor, yet more simple to use than premiere, I plan to give that a try when I get round to getting an evaluation copy.
Quote from: oRGie on November 13, 2009, 12:51:16 PM
I've read quite a few comments saying vegas is a good powerfull editor, yet more simple to use than premiere, I plan to give that a try when I get round to getting an evaluation copy.
Well I haven't tried Premiere so can't make the comparison but will say this: if Vegas is more simple than Premiere, then Premiere must be one hell of a complicated programme. The pdf help file with Vegas is as clear as mud and true to form written in a style only understood by the orientals themselves lol.
However, Vegas is available on trial and once mastered is very good. Here's the link: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/moviestudiope and far more beneficial than the pdf help file is this series of short videos which I stumbled across by accident. Best to choose the Download option under the viewing window so that you can refer to them as and when necessary: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/support/trainingvids.asp?prod=moviestudio
What are Scrubs videos ?
Scrubs is an American comedy series based on the lives of medical staff at the Scared Heart hospital.
It provides me with some light relief when i need to chill out.
When i viewed your clip, next to it were a bunch of clips from the various members of the cast of 'Scrubs' so i digressed for a bit!
At some point i may have to give the HD Video a look on my 5D MkII - but i'll need to some good reason other than weddings to conjure up the interest!
Thanks Forseti, I'll give those vids a look :) The only thing about premiere that makes life a little easier for me is knowing photoshop, it sort has the same feel, sort of familiar if you know what I mean.
Picsfor, imho I not sure if the video function would be that great at a wedding, maybe if your not the tog also, but if you are the general busyness of a wedding tog goes against the time and care needed to get those fabulous film like results. It is nice that you can overide filming just by using the shutter release though.
I was chatting to a friend and he pointed out the lcd pic frames that can show video, we had an amusing conversation about making a video that looks like a still except for perhaps a wink or similar, would be funny if a visitor noticed a slight movement out of the corner of their eye :2funny:
Take a look at this short video if you'd like to see how a talented photographer blends stills and motion: http://www.studioimpressionsphotography.com/blog/2009/10/stills-and-motion-using-hd-dslr-cameras/ and this is where having a video capable DSLR comes in handy. Not to be used for the creation of a Walt Disney movie but those one off specials.
Well i have to say, that is impressive stuff.
Having watched over half of it i was left thinking of a certain JR of Cantebury and how he would be using this technology, never being one to miss 'that' or any other trick.
A very clever and polished production, that i suspect did not come cheap, but when produced as multiples of copies suddenly comes down in price.
Thanks for sharing that, impressive stuff and a reason for using DSLR HD Video.
Thanks for posting Forseti and a very well done production. :tup:
Havent spent much time taking pictures yet, was finishing of some decorating around the house while the weather is dreary, however have been playing around with the camera obviously lol, it really is an amazing machine to use.
I've sorted my only real gripe, that was the fit of it in my hand, all the weight was being supported by my fingertips, no where for my little finger, so basically I was holding it with 2 middle fingers, the sharp contour was then digging into my finger. i did have a similar probelm with the 40D, but it didnt feel as bad because it was lighter and the grip was thicker.
I cured the problem on my last 3 slr's by getting the battery grips for them, but, although they are nice and make the cameras feel totaly different, they are much bigger than what I need and add even more weight.. What I need is a grip extender sort of thing, about half the size of a battery grip, much lighter, no extra battery, just to give my pinky somewhere to grab and put the weight into the palm of my hand.....
Well, I give you, the orgi'nised grip extender prototype..
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_grip_0072.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/grip_0072.jpg)
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_grip_0074.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/grip_0074.jpg)
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_grip_0077.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/grip_0077.jpg)
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_grip_0078.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/grip_0078.jpg)
I'll take some pics fitted to the camera when I come across another photographer...
The camera is now so comfortable, perfect size for my fingers and the camera literally ballances against my palm :beer: :tup:
A bit of tweaking to the finish, havent decided whether to paint it black or varnish it natural wood, it looks kind of funky in wood :)
Got to be varnished wood! :tup:
Quote from: Forseti on November 13, 2009, 03:03:42 PM
this is where having a video capable DSLR comes in handy. Not to be used for the creation of a Walt Disney movie but those one off specials.
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_Need%20for%20Video%20on%20SLR.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Need%20for%20Video%20on%20SLR.jpg)
Or maybe it would come in handy for this! Note the little compact being used for video by a serious organisation...
Having a play around and did this to see what the res of the 7D with the 15-85 is like.. Here's a pic of my back yard, well its not all mine of course lol..
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2665/4113608552_aa157c07f0_b.jpg)
Nothing overly special, I did a little sharpening on it.. but you see the red line, this next pic is a crop from above shot at 300% !!!
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2756/4112839829_db8770a2bc_o.jpg)
thats pretty impressive to me or am I easilly pleased ?
I've still not managed to get out with the new camera to try it out seriously, but two days ago I did exactly the same as you and was very pleasently suprised at the detail at 300%.
I've now customised the camera to what I think is the most suitable, hopefully I will be able to go out for the day next week and give it a proper whirl.
In the meatime I'm pointing at everything around the house and even the kitchen sink :)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j153/hssutton/KitchenSink.jpg)
You'll be pleased to know oRGie that Lightroom 2.6 and ACR 5.6 (supporting the 7D)are now both available as RC (release candidates) - more details here http://lightroom-news.com/
Quote from: Forseti on November 19, 2009, 08:39:39 AM
You'll be pleased to know oRGie that Lightroom 2.6 and ACR 5.6 (supporting the 7D)are now both available as RC (release candidates) - more details here http://lightroom-news.com/
but have you given in to the desire and pressed the 'purchase' button yet?
Quote from: picsfor on November 19, 2009, 10:41:16 AM
Quote from: Forseti on November 19, 2009, 08:39:39 AM
You'll be pleased to know oRGie that Lightroom 2.6 and ACR 5.6 (supporting the 7D)are now both available as RC (release candidates) - more details here http://lightroom-news.com/
but have you given in to the desire and pressed the 'purchase' button yet?
Nothing like a bit of pressure is there, what with you and now Adobe having released LR2.6 RC will full 7D support? :-* I was almost there (ordering) yesterday but one or two other things cropped up - one of them being that I discovered that Warehouse Express and WEX cameras (here in Germany) are related in fact there's even a thumbnail link to WEX on Warehouse Expresses home page. Difficult to ascertain is who owns who. I emailed WEX asking if they were able to supply me the 7D including manuals BOTH in English as well as German. I've always done this because it offers more opportunities (thinking of Fleebay here) when the time comes to sell cameras on. Here's part of the reply that I received from WEX (Germany)
"All products sold from us are being shipped to Warehouse Express, which means that they are all in English language...." This got me to thinking is WEX the parent company of Warehouse Express? Not that it really matters I suppose because WEX are able to supply me the 7D with manuals in both languages in addition to the power cords for UK and European use at no charge - plus no shipping charges. If I can't find another supplier that can offer me the same deal at a substantially reduced cost which is doubtful as the model is relatively new then I shall probably proceed with ordering it from WEX. Just a bit more haggling needed first - I like the fact that oRGie had an 8GB card thrown in so am currently negotiating.
I've also seen ads linking Park Cameras with Warehouse Express.
So whether there is a parent company owning all three or they have joined up to provide themselves better buying and selling power, i couldn't say.
But i have definitely seen them linked.
And please - do not feel pressured to buy on my account. Buy it because your worth it :tup:
Quote from: picsfor on November 19, 2009, 11:49:52 AM
Buy it because your worth it :tup:
LOL - yes I am. :tup: Now what's that WEX telephone number again? :2funny:
I saw the RC release info, I havent go round to installing cs4 yet lol :) I have been having a spring clean of my data and backups, got another 1tb drive from amazon for 65 beer tokens :) also by the way I got a firewire reader, sandisk extreme and once I patched windows to run at s400 (service pack2 scrambles the driver).. The FW reader uploaded 500mb of pics from a 30mbs extreme3 cf card in 55 seconds, the same 500mb of pics from my usb2 sandisk reader took 2 mins & 25 seconds, so pleased with that seeing the size of files from the 7D :) My pc only has 400 FW and the card was the limiting factor at 30mbs.
By the way, park gave me 8gb ext3 card, lpe6 battery and a lens hood for the 15-85, so since the price drops I am still not feeling ripped off for buying early.. I knew the cam would drop to 1200, I had a feeling and its nearly there allready, lucky you Forseti ;)
And btw the box I got from Park had a euro and uk plug in there, I think thats standard nowadays, it was standard Uk stock.
Have you given any thought to a second/spare battery for your new toy oRGie? The reason is that having watched a couple of the tutorial videos that hssutton referred to in this post here (http://cameracraniums.com/forum/index.php?topic=964.0) that these new batteries are 'chipped'. I take it that's another move by Canon to deter people from using non Canon batteries although if the truth be known, I've only ever used originals anyway.
All going to plan I shall be ordering the 7D on 4th Dec as that is when my preferred supplier receives new stock (most likely at reduced cost) and can then pass some of that saving onto me. No binding contract, but at this stage it looks like the camera shall be costing me €1300 which equates to approximately £1167 although comparisons really mean nothing in this case as my home currency is the 'Teuer-ro' (a German take on the Euro meaning expensive).
Edit: after thought regarding those videos. Although no indication is given that one is able to download and save these tutorials to your computer I have found that by right clicking on the zip file and choosing 'save target as' I am able to download them. Mind you, as the videos in their entirity amount to 8GB one would be advised to be somewhat selective. :doh:
What's really annoying about 'chipped' batteries is not so much the fact you can't just buy any old compatible but rather you can't use the genuine battery from another camera. This happens with the latest nikons - the ones I've used anyway - and the Fuji S5. So if you have two different bodies which use the same size battery and you're going out with one body you can't slip the other camera's battery in your case as a spare. It's a good job the latest cameras have such a good battery life!
errrr - that's not good!
I've been known to go out on a day trip with 2 bodies that share the same battery and had a third as a spare...
It's one thing chipping them to discourage you from buying 3rd party stuff - but it's another matter when it stops you managing your stuff efficently.
How would that work on a battery grip which holds 2 batteries and could be moved from body to body!
Not sure. At one point when I'd just bought my D300 and was in the process of selling my D90 to my friend we had 4 Nikon bodies here all using the same size battery. From memory the D50 took all of them as did the D80 [I think] the D90 and D300 would only take their own - so the spares we'd bought had to be sold with the D50 and D80 and we both ended up with one camera and one battery.
I think you will find the official reason for having the batteries chipped is because of the in-camera monitoring that is done on batteries these days - the camera talks to the battery to find out charge levels condition etc. The charging side is probably monitored too - when they are monitored, they can be charged faster without damage.
I've not got a spare battery for my MkIII - at over £100 its expensive - and in my case not needed at the moment - I can take 4000+ shots on a charge so its not an issue for a days shoot, though for a pro that would be a different story potentially.
I got a spare battery and 8gb cf card and lens hood for the 15-85 thrown in, I am glad i did too as it means I didnt pay too much over the current prices, I would not be happy if I had paid the original price for body only to see it drop £400 in a few weeks!! personelly I understand the need for retailers to make as much profit as poss, but thats just taking the michael really..
I dont see any reference to not being able to use the lpe6 in different bodies, you dont have to register the battery to use it or monitor power level and even if you do the camera will just update the power remaining when you switch the cam on. In a way chipped batteries seem like an excuse to just use originals, but the thrid party batteries do still work, they just dont give you any information, from what I've read so far. But I must say the battery level indicator is a lot more accurate now with chipped batteries.
The only frustrating thing about the lpe6 is that its best not to store it fully charged, well I have allways re-charged a flat soon as I get home and stuck it in the bag ready for use, but the battery lasts so long that it can be a while before its needed again, so sits fully charged and that apparently diminishes the life cycle and maximum charge they can hold.
Quote from: oRGie on November 21, 2009, 05:37:24 PM
The only frustrating thing about the lpe6 is that its best not to store it fully charged, well I have allways re-charged a flat soon as I get home and stuck it in the bag ready for use, but the battery lasts so long that it can be a while before its needed again, so sits fully charged and that apparently diminishes the life cycle and maximum charge they can hold.
Does it say that in the manual then oRGie? I see the 7D has now fallen below £1200 (Warehouse Express) and all in the time it took you to charge the battery. :'(
Quote from: Forseti on November 23, 2009, 12:46:05 PM
I see the 7D has now fallen below £1200 (Warehouse Express) and all in the time it took you to charge the battery. :'(
I'm sure the law of diminishing returns will kick in some where. If not, get shooting Orgie ;D
I'm trying to stop looking at prices now lol :doh: I knew I was buying a bit early, so I'm not annoyed, if I bought here I would still have to pay a lot more, but I could have saved around £100 I guess if I had waited a couple of weeks..
I think I read about the battery charge in the manual, just checked yeah, page 25, tips for battery... "Storing the battery after it is fully charged can lower the battery's performance"
Glad I opted for the 7D over the 5D Mk2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usUtpNLSZGU . It's similar but different to the first take on this theme.
very funny.
That clips seems to be very versatile
Quote from: Forseti on November 27, 2009, 09:44:18 PM
Glad I opted for the 7D over the 5D Mk2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usUtpNLSZGU . It's similar but different to the first take on this theme.
Are you still waiting for the 4th ?
had a funny moment tonight, looking at some pics on my pc I took tonight, a few were black as the battery in the flashgun was dead, I noticed tiny little solid colour squares, about 4 of them, a sort of dark red colour, s*** I'm thinking they are dead or stuck pixels, went through all the pics and yup, the little dots were in all of them!! then I reached out and touched the monitor, the dot moved, ahhhhhhhhhhh phew :)
Quote from: oRGie on November 27, 2009, 11:34:05 PM
Quote from: Forseti on November 27, 2009, 09:44:18 PM
Glad I opted for the 7D over the 5D Mk2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usUtpNLSZGU . It's similar but different to the first take on this theme.
Are you still waiting for the 4th ?
had a funny moment tonight, looking at some pics on my pc I took tonight, a few were black as the battery in the flashgun was dead, I noticed tiny little solid colour squares, about 4 of them, a sort of dark red colour, s*** I'm thinking they are dead or stuck pixels, went through all the pics and yup, the little dots were in all of them!! then I reached out and touched the monitor, the dot moved, ahhhhhhhhhhh phew :)
Sounds like too much Port! :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Quote from: oRGie on November 27, 2009, 11:34:05 PM
Quote from: Forseti on November 27, 2009, 09:44:18 PM
Glad I opted for the 7D over the 5D Mk2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usUtpNLSZGU . It's similar but different to the first take on this theme.
Are you still waiting for the 4th ?
Yes, and doesn't time drag? :2funny:
Quote from: Forseti on November 28, 2009, 11:18:26 AM
Quote from: oRGie on November 27, 2009, 11:34:05 PM
Are you still waiting for the 4th ?
Yes, and doesn't time drag? :2funny:
but think how much you'll appreciate it when it arrives - and just right to get all those videos of people acting foolishly whilst they wait for you to say smile or cheese ;) ::)
Quote from: picsfor on November 28, 2009, 11:43:44 AM
but think how much you'll appreciate it when it arrives - and just right to get all those videos of people acting foolishly whilst they wait for you to say smile or cheese ;) ::)
lol, great idea, add the benny hill theme, speed the frame rate up a bit and what a classic wedding video :2funny:
update on the grip :) Been using version 2 for a couple of weeks and I am very happy with the idea, but version 2 isnt perfect, yet lol.. I made it shaped for comfort and once finished it is comfy in my hands, but it looks comical because the base isnt level. Soo I am going to make a version 3 thats got a level bottom and locators for a hand strap on the grip side and a locator for the main strap on the other end so I have the option of both attached or just the hand strap etc..
A couple fo thoughts, if canon made one of these, they could even have an extra 1 or 2 cf card slots, using the wifi locator/connector on the bottom, I thought of this reading lots of posts from people wanting a second slot for file safety. Canon could have user options to write to both at the same time or select which card to write to or auto move to card slot 2 when 1 is full :) I can dream, although I would personely prefer a cheaper no electronics version just to improve the grip.
I have also begun talking to Kirk and Jim at camdaptor about the idea. Kirk are looking into the idea and asked for pics.. if they add them to their product line, hopefully they will send me a valuation copy :) Now that would be nice, machined alloy, with extra tripod thread or they may even go the qr plate route so the grip can be easilly removed for battery access and to slip onto a tripod head.
Anyhow we will see, I'm not holding my breath.. I painted version 2, so now when on the camera you really dont notice it, at least non-togs dont and a couple of camera toting friends loved the way it feels, I may have back orders :beer:
Still haven't got round to getting some pics fitted, will do that soon, but heres version 2..
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4172674919_b32ed28b8b.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2509/4172674737_63cf95395d.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2593/4173432018_77a10cb213.jpg)
How do you think most great products come about?
By trial and error!
Wonder how many people would be interested in a 'grip' to improve the feel of the camera but without all the 'gubbings' inside that makes it heavier?
And how much would they pay for it? Time to do our research...
The grip extension looks good, but you now need to get rid of that strap and get one of these http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-optech-pro-bag-strap-black/p1009949.
The Canon straps for my 5D & 7D are still unpacked as I use the Op-Tech straps on both cameras.
Harry
aha, Harry, why do you think its on the table as a prop and not on the camera ;) I use an optech too, much more comfy and most of the time I have the neck bit in the bag and just connect the 2 short straps together :)
Andrew, I agree, I think camdaptor, kirk and rrs seem to have started out that way too :)
Well it's finally been delivered - battery now on charge and pretty soon we'll be set to go. :D :D
First impressions: very well made (as was the 40D) and in terms of size feels very comfortable in the hands and not really all that much bigger than the 40D fitting well even into my relatively small hands. At this stage I can't visualise needing one of those oRGie grips if it ever get as far as being patented :tup: Now just waiting for LR v2.6 to be released (hopefully not too much longer) so that I can give DPP, as good as it is, a miss. No, don't mention an RC version is already available - I hate those along with beta's.
Now to get stuck into the handbook, the only question being which one. Should it be the German version, the French version or even the Dutch, Italian or English version - talk about preserving the rain forests. :2funny: :2funny:
you mean you didn't download a manual and read it through thoroughly 'a la Orgie' whilst you waited? :tup:
Look forward to seeing some of your 'test' shots...
Forseti, Dxo has already released their program with support for the 7D - it has a free trial for 30days - which would see you through the initial lack of ACR support - and you might find you like it better than ACR.
I have tried it and quite like it in lots of ways - but I do prefer ACR. But only just!!
Gratz Forseti :beer: takes a bit of trial and error to get things set up the way you like, I have c1, c2 set up with Ai servo and af-on button to focus and shutter button for meter and shoot, c1 one shot, c2 machine gun style :)
I'm using 5.6 rc from adobe labs with no issues :) although I must admit I dont really like cs4 as much as cs3, I guess I'm not a power user so the new features of cs4 are lost on me. For some strange reason the brushes only show a quarter of the brush circle once over about 150 pixels, bit of a pain, must try and figure out whats up with that. CS4 bridge is nicer though, so I have a couple of times done my stuff in acr and then switched back to cs3 for editing.
Quote from: picsfor on December 14, 2009, 05:22:48 PM
you mean you didn't download a manual and read it through thoroughly 'a la Orgie' whilst you waited? :tup:
Look forward to seeing some of your 'test' shots...
:2funny: :2funny: - Started to but found it somewhat above my head without having the actual camera before me.
Quote from: anglefire on December 14, 2009, 06:06:03 PM
Forseti, Dxo has already released their program with support for the 7D - it has a free trial for 30days - which would see you through the initial lack of ACR support - and you might find you like it better than ACR.
I have tried it and quite like it in lots of ways - but I do prefer ACR. But only just!!
Right then - that's the clearest recommendation for DXo that I've read so far. ???
Quote from: oRGie on December 14, 2009, 06:45:50 PM
Gratz Forseti :beer: takes a bit of trial and error to get things set up the way you like, I have c1, c2 set up with Ai servo and af-on button to focus and shutter button for meter and shoot, c1 one shot, c2 machine gun style :)
I'm using 5.6 rc from adobe labs with no issues :) although I must admit I dont really like cs4 as much as cs3, I guess I'm not a power user so the new features of cs4 are lost on me. For some strange reason the brushes only show a quarter of the brush circle once over about 150 pixels, bit of a pain, must try and figure out whats up with that. CS4 bridge is nicer though, so I have a couple of times done my stuff in acr and then switched back to cs3 for editing.
Yes, there are so many combinations available for setting this camera up that it's really going to take some thinking about. Top of the list is setting the AF button to focus like I had on the 40D. Took a while getting used to it but now wouldn't have it any other way. As for CS4 - hardly ever use it now as LR suffices me 99% of the time.
Here's a link you might find useful oRGie http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=795774 . You'll notice that in the first line of this link there are futher links to various sites - one being to BH video. This video is 50 mins long :'( and is only part one of a series of 3 (other video boxes lead you to parts 1 and 2). The good news is that the second and third videos are somewhat shorter - only 30 mins or so :2funny: . So if you've got nothing better to do one dark and cold winter night ..... :tup:
And if that's not enough to see you through to Spring take a look at this http://www.vimeo.com/7622493
OT, but imho the 7D is perhaps going to be one of Canon's most successful i.e. most sales, because it appears that no sooner are retailers getting them in stock than they are being snapped up. Here in Germany Canon are also paying for commercial time on various TV channels pushing the 7D - something I can't remember seeing for any previous models.
Good idea for the Grip, oRGie. You could also rout out some slots in it to hold spare CF/SD cards. Perhaps adding a velcro cover, so they don't fall out.
H.