I get updates on my registration for Windows 10, but MSN sends them straight to my Hotmail spam folder.
Does this mean, I 'signed up' with a cybercriminal? Or does Microsoft not recognise its own emails?
Do you get updates from Windows@e-mail.microsoft.com?
It's informing you that Windows10 will start been downloaded from 29th July. You may not get it on that date but sometime after that. The email from them goes into your spam folder because of settings in your email program. :tup:
Having ignored the windows 10 on my taskbar I recently agreed some updates and found it had registered me for windows 10 upgrade. I was going to leave it thinking I`d have the choice of updating or not from 27th July but then read that other automatic updates would be done to ready my machine for windows 10 until 27th July when I would be able to upgrade. I`m worried about letting it do all this so unregistered myself again. My worry is that I`ll end up with a PC like my google Nexus which has effectively turned into a machine a tenth of what it was with stupid operating system updates. I`d hate to lose / ruin software onboard that I use because windows 10 did not work with it.
What are others doing? Am I being an ostrich wanting to stick with windows 7 which works fine for me? Will Microsoft cease support for windows 7 and leave me floundering anyway or can I just go on using windows 7, even unsupported, until I have to get a new machine when it happens?
I'm dubious as well I like to keep updated but if it aint broke don't fix it. I am also worried it may not run all my software programmes. Might wait see what others are saying first
Windows 10 will download and wait for you to choose to install it.
I have registered both my machines, but will not install W10 until Steinberg have confirmed Cubase compatibility. As it happens I have a friend who is a product development manager for M$ in Reading - I shall pump him for up to date information when he arrives here next Thursday.
I used OS/2 until I had to change to run certain software, and moved to Windows NT4. I stuck with this until I had to go to Win 2000, and then reluctantly moved to Win 7. My most recent computer did give me the choice of the default Win 8 or taking an upgrade to Win 7, so I stuck with Win 7. Win 8 on a tablet is hideous and terrible to use. I have no intention of moving on unless I have to. Fortunately, Photoshop is now immutable (since I'm not taking the "download all the latest bugs automatically" route (aka Creative Cloud - so called no doubt because, like a cloud on a mountain, it means you don't know where you're going and may drop over the edge at any moment) and I have no need to move on for the programs I want to run.
Ostrich? Moi? Certainly not!
I ignored the emails about Windows 10 for a long time, till I read somewhere, there's no escape if you have Windows 8, which I have, so I did register.
What I fear, is that Microsoft, like Google, will try to gather far too much personal information, and that Windows 10 may make that easier.
Maybe I should change to Linux; my brother in law in Holland, runs all his machines on this OS.
He says in Germany no one runs Windows, it's all Linux there.
I like your M$ H! As that's what it's all about, I suppose.
You pump your friend, and let us know!
I use all apple stuff so this does not bother me. Works computers are all windows so i suppose one day it will happen there.
Don't like upgrading anything that is working ok, normally you end up with something going wrong.
Good luck Reinardina, i feel for you.
I had the same "what happens next" email from Microsoft, which included links to FAQs. None of those links work - they just get page not found. Doesn't inspire confidence!
Re Jinky's Nexus, mine the same after the first update and now after the latest updates it might as well be a brick (it's too big to be a paperweight). I'm considering resetting it to original factory condition then doing all the Android updates before installing anything else at all. If that doesn't help it'll go in the bin.
Quote from: Hinfrance on July 24, 2015, 10:40:53 AM
Windows 10 will download and wait for you to choose to install it.
Is everyone absolutely certain of this. I do manual updates anyway but fear they`ll just roll it out without my say so or I`ll accidentally go "go on then" one night after a drink or two or when tired like I did with my nexus without checking outcomes of the guinea pigs
See http://www.howtogeek.com/218880/windows-10-is-almost-here-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
and their various other articles on the matter.
At work still running XP. We are upgrading to Windows 7 which is already had mainstream support ended.
Quote from: jinky on July 24, 2015, 10:18:55 AM
Having ignored the windows 10 on my taskbar I recently agreed some updates and found it had registered me for windows 10 upgrade. I was going to leave it thinking I`d have the choice of updating or not from 27th July but then read that other automatic updates would be done to ready my machine for windows 10 until 27th July when I would be able to upgrade. I`m worried about letting it do all this so unregistered myself again. My worry is that I`ll end up with a PC like my google Nexus which has effectively turned into a machine a tenth of what it was with stupid operating system updates. I`d hate to lose / ruin software onboard that I use because windows 10 did not work with it.
What are others doing? Am I being an ostrich wanting to stick with windows 7 which works fine for me? Will Microsoft cease support for windows 7 and leave me floundering anyway or can I just go on using windows 7, even unsupported, until I have to get a new machine when it happens?
They're all pretty much the same. I've been updating my Mac regularly, but since the last update it's been buggy, it's shut down on me at least 3 times this week. Something I've never experienced before on a Mac. Firefox keeps giving me an error message, that Mozilla is well aware of, but can't fix. And I'm firmly behind the people calling for Adobe Flash to be dumped.
That said, I have the Win 10 update notification on my Win7 machine and will update to 10. If it's crap, at least I still have the win 7 DVD and will just to a fresh reinstall.
I've been running the insider Preview Evaluation build for some time now. This is on a cloned version of W7 64bit. I had a few problems initially (self inflicted), but I'm more than happy with W10, so will continue with it. However I will still keep my version of W7 updated just in case.
Harry
Trouble is I am not sure if I have got the windows 7 disks backed up properly. Dell asked me to do that when I got the PC and not sure of these things. Fear that I`d download windows 10, not like it / find programmes not compatible and not be able to restore windows 7 :uglystupid2:
I'll be doing THIS (http://www.howtogeek.com/223139/how-to-create-an-image-of-your-pc-before-upgrading-to-windows-10/) ahead of any changes. Better than putting in the original W7 disk and then going through hours of updates . .
Jinky. Do you have a spare hard drive. If so you could download such as http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx (http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx) which is free and make a cloned copy of your 'C' drive and then install W10.
Harry
Quote from: Hinfrance on July 25, 2015, 03:56:05 PM
I'll be doing THIS (http://www.howtogeek.com/223139/how-to-create-an-image-of-your-pc-before-upgrading-to-windows-10/) ahead of any changes. Better than putting in the original W7 disk and then going through hours of updates . .
It's a shame Windows doesn't have this capability built into it's systems. I've been doing this with my Mac for years using it's Disk Utility. It's basically drag and drop operation.
Does your computer let you boot from an external disk (there will probably be a setting in the BIOS to specify the boot order). If so, you could play safe and disconnect your Win7 disk (just pull the power or SATA cable from the drive) to make sure nothing can happen to it, and install Win 10 on an external USB drive to see how it goes. Years ago, I used to run a dual boot system, but that required a Boot Manager to be installed, which basically was the operating system that first booted, and then let you decide which OS to run.
From memory, if the operating system will fit, you should be able to boot from a USB stick.
As I understand it, the way you are describing it, you would purchase W10. Whereas, if you have W& you can upgrade it to W10 for free.
Of course, you could clone you W7 to another drive, then keep the cloned drive at W7, and you could swap out between W7 and W10... well, maybe, as windows registration might play a factor.
My drive is nearly full so I've bought two new ones to upgrade to anyway. The article Hinfrance linked to is a good one and good advice. I've used Macrium Reflect my self and it's a good suggestion to clone the drive and have that as a backup just in case something goes awry.
The important thing to note here is the difference between cloning a disk and backing it up.
If you clone your disk to another disk, you can simply plug the clone in and be exactly where you were when you made the clone.
With a backup, re-install the OS and cross your fingers the backup is valid, and included everything you needed backing up.
I`ve no idea if my computer would boot from an external hard drive or not. From H`s link I know not whether I have :
•An internal or external hard drive with enough capacity to hold the contents of the drive you wish to image.
My PC has a 1tb built in memory and 6gb of ram I think so I would have thought a 1 tb drive would suffice but could get a 2tb one.
•A USB drive to turn into a restoration drive (minimum size 1GB). ? What does this mean in terms of size I have a number of usb ports that plug my external drives into but no idea what size they are. Ah - if I have a 10 or 20 gb flash drive stick plugged in I am guessing this does the trick?
The rest to be honest is gobbled gook to me.
Given that my pc is now 4/5 years old I am thinking why not use windows 7 that I a happy with for a few more years, unsupported as it may be and then just change the whole machine when I need to. Am I being stupid?
Just seen that dvd maker isn`t included with windows 10 so I might well just stick with what is not broken
Paul, it sounds to me like your default position - keep Windows 7 until you change your PC - is the most sensible one for you, given that you are not sufficiently up to speed on the various technical issues surrounding keeping a W7 restoration strategy in place.
I have no idea how anyone manages with just 1tb of storage. I've got 5tb internal and another 4tb on USB drives and a 3tb NAS* drive. :D
*Network Attached Storage
I have a couple of external drives too but probably need to do more back up and buy more storage so may well do that.
When most computers boot today they will look for the C drive before checking other options set up in your Bios like drive D which may be a partition on drive C or an extra internal drive attached to your motherboard. If it still can't find the operating system then it will check the USB drives. Years ago on boot up it would check floppy disk drive A first before looking for drive C. This meant if you left a floppy disk in drive A and restarted you computer it would look in drive A first, and if it couldn't find the operating system it would just sit there doing nothing. You had to remove the floppy disk from drive A and reboot the PC. It used to drive us mad! ::)
Quote from: jinky on July 26, 2015, 01:23:49 PM
I have a couple of external drives too but probably need to do more back up and buy more storage so may well do that.
To find the size of any drive select file explorer from the start menu, highlight the drive and right click and select properties from the dropdown list. This will show you: Used space, Free space and capacity. On mine it shows Bytes as 2,985,427,988.480 or 2.71 TB. This shows it's a 3tb drive. The missing space is't missing as 3gb is the theoretical size if all the space could be used which, it can't. Some might be on a hidden partition or open partition like mine drive D, which is a backup. Other space will be used by the Fat file and disk software but it sill doesn't add up to the theoretical size. :-\
Quote from: Oldboy on July 26, 2015, 01:41:25 PM
When most computers boot today they will look for the C drive before checking other options set up in your Bios like drive D which may be a partition on drive C or an extra internal drive attached to your motherboard.
I see - I was mislead by this and the previous computer having the option in the BIOS to boot from any drive I chose, internal or external. The selection was on the physical drive, not the drive letter. I've even used a computer where (until I changed the letters) the boot drive was D (and C existed).
Quote from: StephenBatey on July 26, 2015, 04:24:05 PM
Quote from: Oldboy on July 26, 2015, 01:41:25 PM
When most computers boot today they will look for the C drive before checking other options set up in your Bios like drive D which may be a partition on drive C or an extra internal drive attached to your motherboard.
I see - I was mislead by this and the previous computer having the option in the BIOS to boot from any drive I chose, internal or external. The selection was on the physical drive, not the drive letter. I've even used a computer where (until I changed the letters) the boot drive was D (and C existed).
You can assign any drive with any letter you want and it will work fine but, if there is a problem with the operating software it may try to boot from drive C rather than Drive D. A message like, Operating System Not Found" or "Missing operating system" error message', will appear and it won't search for any other drive. 8)
Quote from: StephenBatey on July 26, 2015, 04:24:05 PM
Quote from: Oldboy on July 26, 2015, 01:41:25 PM
When most computers boot today they will look for the C drive before checking other options set up in your Bios like drive D which may be a partition on drive C or an extra internal drive attached to your motherboard.
I see - I was mislead by this and the previous computer having the option in the BIOS to boot from any drive I chose, internal or external. The selection was on the physical drive, not the drive letter. I've even used a computer where (until I changed the letters) the boot drive was D (and C existed).
Don't want to contradict OB, but most modern motherboards give you an option on boot [POST], before even getting to the OS, to pick which drive you can boot from, usually F8 or F9, as well most modern motherboards will allow you, in the BIOS, to set the boot disk you wish to boot from. You can set the BIOS to check for USB first and it will look at your external drives and your sticks and if not finding any will go the next option. You could conceivably set your BIOS to check USB first, DVD 2nd and Floppy 3rd before it even tries for a hard drive. AND if you do select internal Harddrive, it will give you an option as to WHICH hard drive to check first.
I have a PC with Win7 Pro as the main OS, it was a Refurbed business machine. However, I also have a Hackintosh external drive and every once in a while play around with Linux Distros. I have the machine set to boot from the Win 7 drive but if I want the Hackintosh or Linux system, because both of them have some software that is way better than Microsoft versions, I just hit the F8 key on boot and pick which of those drives I want to use.
You could, conceivably clone your current Windows drive, and either upgrade it to Win 10 or upgrade your original drive to Win 10 keeping the clone as a back up. I do this regularly with my legitimate iMac. I have an external drive that is a clone, I upgrade it first to whatever system is current. Once I'm satisfied there are no major bugs I upgrade my original drive. I do this because there is no way on earth I'm every going to crack the iMac open. Too complicated
Spinner. yes you are correct, but once you select the drive you want to boot from it then becomes your 'C' drive. As I'm running both W7 & W10 I just hit the delete button on my PC at post and then select the drive I want to boot from in bios. or in my case UEFI which has replaced the BIOS.
Harry
Windows 10 continues to work well for me on my laptop... much better than the Windows 8/8.1 it came with. It has already updated to Build 10240, which no longer shows the build number in the lower right of the desktop and not in the computer properties as well.
My only real complaint continues to be about the update process, in that it updates whenever it damm well pleases. For those of us on metered connections this can be very disrupting by causing us to use up our data to quickly.
Beware. Windows 10 will create problems with Nvidia drivers and at the moment there is no way to stop this problem other than stopping auto updates which can create other problems. This problem only arises with W10 upgrades to 10240 or with the final release sheduled for later this week. I will update my Nvidia dives manually, but apparently on the next W10 auto updates this driver will be changed. I guess it's back to W7 for me until this problem is sorted. Effectively W10 driver removes the ability to use the Graphics Processor.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/72088/20150727/windows-10-automatic-updates-mess-up-nvidia-drivers-what-to-know.htm (http://www.techtimes.com/articles/72088/20150727/windows-10-automatic-updates-mess-up-nvidia-drivers-what-to-know.htm)
Harry
I've also have a problem with Lightroom which will not start with the message unable to find catalogue. pointing lightroom to catalogue makes no difference
Quote from: hssutton on July 27, 2015, 04:56:00 PM
Effectively W10 driver removes the ability to use the Graphics Processor.
Harry
That's good, should slow things down so you can make a cup of tea! :o
Quote from: hssutton on July 27, 2015, 04:56:00 PM
I've also have a problem with Lightroom which will not start with the message unable to find catalogue. pointing lightroom to catalogue makes no difference
Try looking in the event logs as the message may not indicate the problem. ???
Quote from: hssutton on July 27, 2015, 04:56:00 PM
Beware. Windows 10 will create problems with Nvidia drivers and at the moment there is no way to stop this problem other than stopping auto updates which can create other problems. This problem only arises with W10 upgrades to 10240 or with the final release sheduled for later this week. I will update my Nvidia dives manually, but apparently on the next W10 auto updates this driver will be changed. I guess it's back to W7 for me until this problem is sorted. Effectively W10 driver removes the ability to use the Graphics Processor.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/72088/20150727/windows-10-automatic-updates-mess-up-nvidia-drivers-what-to-know.htm (http://www.techtimes.com/articles/72088/20150727/windows-10-automatic-updates-mess-up-nvidia-drivers-what-to-know.htm)
Harry
I've also have a problem with Lightroom which will not start with the message unable to find catalogue. pointing lightroom to catalogue makes no difference
Really useful ;). Would blow me out too so thanks for that. Decision made - I stick with Windows 7
Oldboy.
Nothing showing in events log. This is probably due to W10/Lightroom not seeing this as a problem. Lightroom is just not seeing the various catalogues. These problems have only come about with the recent upgrade.
Harry
will I have to reinstall all my software programmes when I upgrade
Quote from: Karen on July 29, 2015, 08:48:57 AM
will I have to reinstall all my software programmes when I upgrade
Simple answer is no. But until you upgrade we won't know. ???
A major update last night has resulted in a few minor problems. Not sure if the Nvidia driver problem with photoshop has been resolved, but the driver I installed direct from Nvidia which resolved the problem has not been overwritten by the final update.
However The sound system is not working (oK in W7 ) and I also have problems with my cardreader (again OK in W7). otherwise all is well and I'm quite pleased with W10. Once I sort out the problem with the reader and sound I will use W10 exclusively, but will continue to backup my photo's to external drive and to W7.
Harry
Two of the PCs I look after have not yet tried to download Windows 10 but my main machine (Windows 7 64bit Pro) has now tried and failed six times (as shown by the "Review Your Update History" screen). I'm in no hurry so I hope it'll sort itself out in due course....
In addition to my previous post regarding cardreaders and sound not working, I also find both my DVDs writers would not work. Eventually after a great deal of head scratching I've solved my problems which again was down to the drivers in W10.
I reinstalled all the drivers for my motherboard which resolved all of my problems, so all systems go. Unless of course Microsoft decide otherwise
Harry
I find all this very scary.
I use a PC, but do not really know much about the workings of hard and software. I'm just about capable to install a programme (if it goes in, in one go), and that's about it.
Did my windows 8.1 laptop last night, all went ok, or at least it seems to have done. :tup: Just got to find my way around it.
I'm holding off on the desktop because it has NVidia graphics, anyone know if they've sorted the issues with those drivers yet?
I currently have my MS developer friend staying with me. Before we got drunk last night we had a quick chat about W10.
He reckons it's jolly good*, but like all things corporate the gun has been slightly jumped on the release and he says there will be a slew of updates for at least the next fortnight to iron out the remaining niggles and unforeseen glitches after it has been released into the wild.
Upshot, worth having, but wait a little while before installing.
*Also, interestingly another friend who is here at the moment (we're a bit full this weekend, party night tomorrow) who runs a couple of software companies in SA, the UK and Germany, has ditched his personal Macs for Windows machines, although he remains in a loving relationship with his iPads ;)
Quote from: Hinfrance on July 31, 2015, 07:41:24 AM
after it has been released into the wild.
Back in the early 1970s in my first programming job, one of the systems programmers used to refer to the new software from the maker of our mainframes as "escapes" rather than "releases" (shouldn't have been let out at all). ;D
Back in the early 1970s in my first programming job, one of the systems programmers used to refer to the new software from the maker of our mainframes as "escapes" rather than "releases" (shouldn't have been let out at all). ;D
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Escape certainly defines the release of W10. Many, many problems, but it's fun playing around with it. I would however advise against upgrading at this point, or do what I and many others have done and that is work on a cloned version of your present software.
Im still waiting on dam thing so will let you know what i think when i finally get it
I've got a pair of new hard drives to install so once the dust settles and I'm ready to install I'm going to do a clean install on a brand new drive and save the old one in case I need to go back to 7 for any reason.
But, I will wait for some bugs to surface and get squashed before then.
Just took the plunge, closed both eyes tightly, downloaded and installed Windows 10.
Took a lot longer than expected, and takes some getting used to, but seems to work fine. (Only have Microsoft Word 2007, Elements 11, and BT Plus (McAfee) as added software. Haven't tried if the old printer still works.
Do not like the look of Flickr through this new browser though, must try to find out if I can get the old look back. Anyone any ideas?
Writing this from my old Vista laptop, as all my preset Gmail addresses disappeared, and I couldn't remember exactly the one I use for newsletters. Thank goodness this old beastie came to the rescue.
Before I shut this down, I can indulge in a bit of mild (Spider) solitaire. Used to enjoy those.
Don't know if this has anything to do with Windows 10, but one of my other Gmail addresses, seems to be 'stuck' on the security page and I cannot find how to get from there to my inbox. Where do I click to get there?
Quote from: Hinfrance on July 25, 2015, 03:56:05 PM
I'll be doing THIS (http://www.howtogeek.com/223139/how-to-create-an-image-of-your-pc-before-upgrading-to-windows-10/) ahead of any changes. Better than putting in the original W7 disk and then going through hours of updates . .
Just downloaded this programme.
Not the easiest to understand ( unless I am having a thicko day)
Let it run for and back up to an external drive for a couple of hours then got an error code 23 (?????)
Looked in hard drive and there is nothing there created, copied, backed up etc
What am I doing wrong ?
Quote
Don't know if this has anything to do with Windows 10, but one of my other Gmail addresses, seems to be 'stuck' on the security page and I cannot find how to get from there to my inbox. Where do I click to get there?
Reinardina. Not 100% sure, but it could be McAfee. Prior to the general release of W10 a lot of people were having problem with McAfee. You could try disabling this program and see if MaCafee is causing the problem.
How to temporarily disable McAfee. http://www.wikihow.com/Disable-McAfee (http://www.wikihow.com/Disable-McAfee)
Harry
Thanks for that Harry. The problem went a way, of its own accord. Sorry I did not mention it!
Here's a new twist on Windows 10
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-spying-how-to-opt-out-of-microsofts-intrusive-terms-of-use-10432300.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-spying-how-to-opt-out-of-microsofts-intrusive-terms-of-use-10432300.html)
The paper quotes part of the (apparently) 12,000 words long terms of use as follows
One excerpt worryingly tells users that "we will access, disclose and preserve personal data", including the contents of emails or files in private folders.
Interesting.
Did 3 upgrades over the weekend. 2 went smooth as silk. Number 3, an old Gateway laptop, not so smooth. Eventually figured out the glitch though. The issue might be the same on a PC too. Don't upgrade with two mismatched displays running. I had the laptop plugged into a flat screen. Thought I could see things better. When it reboot after the install the screen would die. I assume it was having trouble determining which display drivers to load. Anyway after unplugging the external monitor it went through the remainder of the install fine.
Problem now is determining which of the old software works with Win 10. :o
Quote from: StephenBatey on August 03, 2015, 10:24:32 PM
Here's a new twist on Quote from: StephenBatey on August 03, 2015, 10:24:32 PM
Here's a new twist on Windows 10
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-spying-how-to-opt-out-of-microsofts-intrusive-terms-of-use-10432300.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-spying-how-to-opt-out-of-microsofts-intrusive-terms-of-use-10432300.html)
The paper quotes part of the (apparently) 12,000 words long terms of use as follows
One excerpt worryingly tells users that "we will access, disclose and preserve personal data", including the contents of emails or files in private folders.
Interesting.
The paper quotes part of the (apparently) 12,000 words long terms of use as follows
One excerpt worryingly tells users that "we will access, disclose and preserve personal data", including the contents of emails or files in private folders.
Interesting.
Standard backside covering legalese, no more, no less.
I hadn't realised that operating systems standardly accessed, stored and passed back to their makers emails and the contents of private files. Whilst it might be honest of Microsoft to state that by installing Windows 10 you are allowing them unlimited access to, and the right to disclose to anyone else, all the data found on your computer, it seems a very risky undertaking for any business which has trade secrets or confidential information held on computer to install it.
I know that written records are making a comeback, since there are so many legal ways for people to demand access to any computer based information that refers to them, but this seems to be a step further - no data is private, and will be disclosed if Microsoft want to.
Standard it may be - highly objectionable, certainly.
I've just upgraded from Windows 7 Pro. It took less time than I expected - about 1.5 hours, and I did not have to intervene at all. My Lightroom 5 seems fine, as does my Proshow Gold 7, and my Dreamweaver MX 2004 (which I've had since Windows XP without ever updating it). My Photoshop Elements 9 appears to work OK too, though it reports that some parts of it won't work properly without Internet Explorer 5 or later (so it obviously doesn't recognise Edge as the later version). And it left my existing Windows Media Player in place as well. The desktop is pretty well indentical to before the upgrade. Some things I've not yet tried, including the printer, but so far I can't see what the fuss was about.
(Mind you, that was all on what's still my "second" PC, not my main photo-store/editor. That can wait till I'm certain there won't be snags.....)
Simon
Upgraded my main PC to Windows 10 and the only problem I've found is with Netgear modem port, from my PC doesn't work. Unplugged cable and connected to another port and it now works? :doh:
Did an image backup using Microsoft's own in Windows 8.1 and that took about six hours. The Windows 10 install took about one hour. Went to bed at midnight whilst the backup was still going. Up at 03:00 to find it had finished do started the install. Went back to bed at 04:30 still without fixing modem, up at 08:00 and fixed modem. :P
Just had a W10 compatibility update from Steinberg. W10 apparently nukes DAWs, including Cubase, as the audio processing system profile used in W7 to stop the OS using audio allocated resources (and thus preventing drop outs and timing errors) cannot be invoked. No upgrade for me then until either MS or one of the DAW software companies work out how to fix this.
Oh, Help! Since my seemingly successful upgrade from Windows 7 to 10 I've hit a major seemingly insurmountable problem. Both the Administrator Accounts on my PC appeared as Administrator Accounts on Windows 10, and all their Apps and data worked fine. But now I've found the Account Settings just don't work. Advice from other gurus I know hasn't come up with an answer. The options to create or add new accounts don't work (and on some screens don't even appear - for example on other machines some screens have the option "add or remove user accounts" wher mine simply says "remove user accounts". And neither can I change any details on the existing accounts - not even the password. The option to "Log in using a Microsoft Account Instead" doesn't work. A pop-up suggested my WiFi Sense needed fixing and said "click here to fix it" but it then gave me a totally empty WiFi settings window. And so on. I'm thinking both accounts might not, in spite of appearances, be Admin ones, but much more restricted, and I'll need to go back to Windows 7 (if in fact I can) to create a microsoft account before I try it again.
Simon
My son just reverted his... he said W10 was 'boring'. Oh, and it broke a number of things, like he couldn't choose the correct resolution, which made everything look wonky. I told him to reinstall the correct drivers, but that didn't work because the install window was half off the screen and couldn't be moved.
I'm sticking with W7 for a while longer!
:uglystupid2:
Well I'm very happy with W10, Used it as an 'insider' for several months with no problems whatsoever. Must admit that the final version did give me a few headaches, in all cases driver related. All simply cured by installing the correct drivers, unless of course Microsoft insist on installing their drivers at the next update, at which point I will dump W10.
Harry
Quote from: WillyP on August 10, 2015, 03:48:57 PM
My son just reverted his... he said W10 was 'boring'. Oh, and it broke a number of things, like he couldn't choose the correct resolution, which made everything look wonky. I told him to reinstall the correct drivers, but that didn't work because the install window was half off the screen and couldn't be moved.
I'm sticking with W7 for a while longer!
:uglystupid2:
The resolution issue has been noted to occur if there was more than one monitor profile. When my MS friend was here last week he sorted it out for one of the other house guests who was having a similar problem. No idea how he did it, I wasn't watching. Clearly something they should have spotted before launch.
I`ve a few local contacts who were happy for 2/3 days then found their hard drive partitioned into 3, lost admin rights and getting into messes with drivers. I will be sticking with windows 7
Been running it for a week now with no issues
Having gone from Windows 7 a week or so back I must admit I like it a great deal. It all seems to work fine for all the normal things I usually do including photo editing, web site maintenance and so on, better and faster than before.
BUT in my case it has one very major problem which I didn't immediately notice. I can't solve it and it looks like I'll need to take my PC back to as originally supplied by the manufacturer, which means days if not weeks of work to get all my Apps back, and all the upgrades since then. The problem is that I can find no way of adding new accounts or editing existing ones. All the various methods which should do are either not present or greyed out, or just do nothing. I can't even add the first account to the new Mail app. The two accounts I had previously appeared to carry over OK, and are clearly shown as Administrator accounts, but I suspect they are not, and have very limited functions.
Of course, it might be some time before I really need to do these things, but I think I need to fix this before I need it in a hurry. I guess my problem is quite uncommon - there's very little chatter on the net concerning problems with the upgrade - so don't let it put anyone else off moving to 10.
Simon
Simon - before you go through that horror story, perhaps, just perhaps, installing Windows Shell might give you access to the lost accounts - also, of course, try putting in a support request to MS themselves.
Windows Shell How To (http://www.howtogeek.com/223728/bring-the-windows-7-start-menu-to-windows-10-with-classic-shell/)
I have one problem and at the moment unable to rectify the problem, even with help from computer forums. Put simply since the the release of W10 my card readers will not work, but worked perfectly OK before the general release.
My internal reader is connected direct to a USB header on the motherboard. There are three such headers for USB 2 and one for USB 3. All my USB ports work OK. Now the interesting or maybe I should say the annoying part.
If I shut down the PC and move the connection from one header to another my reader works OK until shutdown. On restart it fails to work again. Shut down and move the connection to a different header, restart and the reader works. Now this problem only started with the release of W10 and unfortunately it also affects W10. Control panel shows the reader to be working correctly. I've tried a second internal reader with the same result, I've also tried an external reader, with the same result.
If anyone can come up remedy it would be much appreciated.
One final point if I connect my camera in a USB port on the card reader it works OK, But it's quite a fiddly job connecting the Canon 7D11.
Quote from: hssutton on August 12, 2015, 01:12:57 PM
I have one problem and at the moment unable to rectify the problem, even with help from computer forums. Put simply since the the release of W10 my card readers will not work, but worked perfectly OK before the general release.
My internal reader is connected direct to a USB header on the motherboard. There are three such headers for USB 2 and one for USB 3. All my USB ports work OK. Now the interesting or maybe I should say the annoying part.
If I shut down the PC and move the connection from one header to another my reader works OK until shutdown. On restart it fails to work again. Shut down and move the connection to a different header, restart and the reader works. Now this problem only started with the release of W10 and unfortunately it also affects W10. Control panel shows the reader to be working correctly. I've tried a second internal reader with the same result, I've also tried an external reader, with the same result.
If anyone can come up remedy it would be much appreciated.
One final point if I connect my camera in a USB port on the card reader it works OK, But it's quite a fiddly job connecting the Canon 7D11.
Harry, You probably already done this.
Do you know what make the card reader is, a Realtek ? See if the manufacturer has any new win 10 drivers for it. Also check the site by your PC manufacturer, and see if they have any updated drivers.
I'm just looking forward to windows9 :legit:
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Harry, You probably already done this.
Do you know what make the card reader is, a Realtek ? See if the manufacturer has any new win 10 drivers for it. Also check the site by your PC manufacturer, and see if they have any updated drivers.
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Mick the PC is a self build with the card reader being a generic one and relies on microsoft drivers. I'm guessing here, but I think the drivers supplied in W10 are the problem. I have just done something I should have done earlier and that is get the reader working ok in W7. On shuting down the PC and restarting a number of times booting back into W7 I have no problem. So booted from W10 and the problem is back again. Obviously this is a driver problem, so will just have to see if Microsoft get their fingers out and resolve the driver problems that people are suffering. It's a pity as I really like W10
You can reload the old drivers manually. Go into control panel, Select Hardware and sound, click device manager, click USB Controllers, right click card reader and select properties, select the driver tab and click Update driver, select Browse my computer for driver software. Just point it where you have stored the old drivers. :tup:
Quote from: jinky on August 11, 2015, 04:02:47 PM
I`ve a few local contacts who were happy for 2/3 days then found their hard drive partitioned into 3, lost admin rights and getting into messes with drivers. I will be sticking with windows 7
I guess part of the issue is the age of the PC they're updating. My hard drive has exactly the same number of partitions it had before. I agree my admin account isn't visible, but I'm sure it's still there, just haven't bothered looking for a fix.
I've installed on 2 reasonably new PC's without issues. My old laptop on the other hand was a pain. But it's running Win10 now.
Quote from: Oldboy on August 12, 2015, 11:05:28 PM
You can reload the old drivers manually. Go into control panel, Select Hardware and sound, click device manager, click USB Controllers, right click card reader and select properties, select the driver tab and click Update driver, select Browse my computer for driver software. Just point it where you have stored the old drivers. :tup:
I've found that generally, after an upgrade, I can find the drivers inside the Windows.old/Windows/System32 folder.
On CC the 'spell check' button does not work anymore.
And when I download photos from my memory card into Elements 11, I always used to wipe them from the card, but now it tells me, they can't be wiped as they are protected. They are not and I format the card in the camera now.
Can these things be linked with Windows 10?
Quote from: Oldboy on August 12, 2015, 11:05:28 PM
You can reload the old drivers manually. Go into control panel, Select Hardware and sound, click device manager, click USB Controllers, right click card reader and select properties, select the driver tab and click Update driver, select Browse my computer for driver software. Just point it where you have stored the old drivers. :tup:
Agreed and that's what I have been doing, but W10 is overwriting them on boot-up. Last evening as per usual prior to boot-up I swapped over the card reader from one hub to another, but this time I booted into W7, I restarted W7 a number of times and the reader worked perfectly. Booted into W10 reader worked, rebooted W10 reader shows as working Ok in 'My PC' and control panel, but does not see the card that's inserted. Re-boot into W7 again reader is not working, shut down swap over the hub connection and again W7 see's the reader and card.
With regards to my PC this is my own build and the card reader is a generic one that uses MS drivers. As an 'Insider' I've been using W10 for quite some time and all was good, that is until the day before the general release when I recieved my copy. Immediately I had problems with drivers, in most cases installing the correct drivers (from my motherboard DVD) corrected the problem leaving me with the Nvidia one, which was corrected by MS within a couple of days and of course the present card reader problem.
Quote from: Reinardina on August 13, 2015, 09:10:09 AM
On CC the 'spell check' button does not work anymore.
And when I download photos from my memory card into Elements 11, I always used to wipe them from the card, but now it tells me, they can't be wiped as they are protected. They are not and I format the card in the camera now.
Can these things be linked with Windows 10?
My card reader started doing this randomly some months ago. Sometimes it is really really slow reading cards too. But the USB port works OK. Sometimes it works. Who knows? I tried to buy a new one, but the connecting leads were all too short to reach my motherboard.
I just discovered I cannot use the Italics, bold or underline function on CC either. Together with the spell check function.
Maybe I should put this in the feedback thread? If I can find it.
Quote from: Hinfrance on August 13, 2015, 11:48:11 AM
Quote from: Reinardina on August 13, 2015, 09:10:09 AM
On CC the 'spell check' button does not work anymore.
And when I download photos from my memory card into Elements 11, I always used to wipe them from the card, but now it tells me, they can't be wiped as they are protected. They are not and I format the card in the camera now.
Can these things be linked with Windows 10?
My card reader started doing this randomly some months ago. Sometimes it is really really slow reading cards too. But the USB port works OK. Sometimes it works. Who knows? I tried to buy a new one, but the connecting leads were all too short to reach my motherboard.
Wednesday evening W10 large download. Unfortunately the download was taking place whilst I was preparing tea, got back to the PC to see it restarting and again downloading updates. This happened several times. Now I have virually no idea what the download was all about, but maybe it was due to my being on the 'Fast Ring' as an 'Insider'. After a lot of searching I find part of the update was "Cumulative Update for W10 for 64bit Systems CKB3081436" and suprise, suprise my card reader problem is no more.
My W10 is now running super fast and without any problems. Fingers crossed.
Harry
Bit the bullet and am now running 10 at work (MAC at home) so i will let you know what i think of it but what i have seen so far, no problems.
Quote from: Reinardina on August 13, 2015, 03:29:31 PM
I just discovered I cannot use the Italics, bold or underline function on CC either. Together with the spell check function.
Maybe I should put this in the feedback thread? If I can find it.
Not a problem for me. It all works OK. Can't reproduce the problem! 8)
Quote from: hssutton on August 13, 2015, 04:06:35 PM
My W10 is now running super fast and without any problems. Fingers crossed.
Harry
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Quote from: Oldboy on August 13, 2015, 11:17:56 PM
Quote from: Reinardina on August 13, 2015, 03:29:31 PM
I just discovered I cannot use the Italics, bold or underline function on CC either. Together with the spell check function.
Maybe I should put this in the feedback thread? If I can find it.
Not a problem for me. It all works OK. Can't reproduce the problem! 8)
Still not working for me! Tried it.
Even tried to write it in Word, then copy and paste, but even that does not work.
My good news is that I've managed to escape from my badly broken Windows 10. Clicking Start>Power> then holding Shift while clicking Restart gave me an option to go back to Windows 7, and with a couple of quite minor hiccups along the way, after about 15 minutes my Windows 7 was back exactly as it used to be.
It seems most people have no bother at all upgrading to 10. I think I was just unlucky, but there is a slight possibility the problem was caused by having Kaspersky 2015 installed. I would recommend anyone else upgrading from Windows 7 with Kaspersky to completely uninstall it first, and then install Kaspersky 2016 (which isn't yet for sale but is available from their support pages) after upgrading.
So maybe I'll try again in a couple of weeks time.
Simon
Quote from: Reinardina on August 14, 2015, 08:50:32 AM
Quote from: Oldboy on August 13, 2015, 11:17:56 PM
Quote from: Reinardina on August 13, 2015, 03:29:31 PM
I just discovered I cannot use the Italics, bold or underline function on CC either. Together with the spell check function.
Maybe I should put this in the feedback thread? If I can find it.
Not a problem for me. It all works OK. Can't reproduce the problem! 8)
Still not working for me! Tried it.
Even tried to write it in Word, then copy and paste, but even that does not work.
Are you using Edge to access the internet? I've just tried it with Edge and it won't allow you to use the options including bold. Try using another program like Opera or Firefox to access the internet. ???
Using Google Chrome now and hey Presto everything seems normal
It must be the Edge then!.
Hope Microsoft will sort it out soon.
PS Spell checking works as well!
Quote from: Reinardina on August 14, 2015, 12:04:28 PM
Using Google Chrome now and hey Presto everything seems normal
It must be the Edge then!.
Hope Microsoft will sort it out soon.
PS Spell checking works as well!
:tup:
Quote from: Reinardina on August 13, 2015, 03:29:31 PM
I just discovered I cannot use the Italics, bold or underline function on CC either. Together with the spell check function.
Maybe I should put this in the feedback thread? If I can find it.
Yep, I think you'll find that none of the BBCode buttons work when using Edge, including the smilies. This a known problem, but hopefully there will be a workaround soon..
Quote from: lurkalot on August 14, 2015, 08:44:37 PM
Quote from: Reinardina on August 13, 2015, 03:29:31 PM
I just discovered I cannot use the Italics, bold or underline function on CC either. Together with the spell check function.
Maybe I should put this in the feedback thread? If I can find it.
Yep, I think you'll find that none of the BBCode buttons work when using Edge, including the smilies. This a known problem, but hopefully there will be a workaround soon..
I won't be sitting on the
edge of my seat waiting for Microsoft to fix! :2funny:
Just installed my Win 10 upgrade from 8.1.
Been delayed releasing it to my machine due to conflicts with "intel" chip drivers.
A little underwhelmed at the moment.
Machine is a lot slower at start ups and shut downs and I am not impressed with the "new" format
Will give it a few days before deciding whether or not to revert back to 8.1
Quote from: hssutton on August 13, 2015, 04:06:35 PM
My W10 is now running super fast and without any problems. Fingers crossed.
Harry
Now running update 10532 with virtually no problems. I still prefere Firefox so I've only had a quick look at edge. So I'm left with one annoying little problem involving Lightroom, it takes two mouse clicks to open it, as I have to use 'Run as Admin' even though I've granted any user 'Permissions'. Annoying, but not a major problem.
Harry
Quote from: Alfonso_Frisk on August 31, 2015, 09:48:36 AM
Just installed my Win 10 upgrade from 8.1.
Been delayed releasing it to my machine due to conflicts with "intel" chip drivers.
A little underwhelmed at the moment.
Machine is a lot slower at start ups and shut downs and I am not impressed with the "new" format
Will give it a few days before deciding whether or not to revert back to 8.1
Oh, I upgraded from Win 7, saw a marked improvement. I thought this new format was already running with Win 8.
Still can't get W10 to install to my SSD.
Which is a shame because it installed perfectly on my HDD.
But, that said, although the SSD does boot and load apps faster, it is definitely twitchy: the number of error messages I have been getting since I starting using it have been an order of magnitude more than I ever got from running with HDD.
Just manage to get it to install on my SSD, after deleting all the previous attempts and using the direct download route. So it was probably duff sectors on the SSD that caused the earlier failures.
Quote from: Alfonso_Frisk on August 31, 2015, 09:48:36 AM
Machine is a lot slower at start ups and shut downs and I am not impressed with the "new" format
I'm surprised. Despite the enormous number of apps I have running from start up, boot time from BIOS check to splash screen is less than 10 seconds, and it's less than 15 seconds from sign in to up an running thereafter. That compares to about 1:30 with W7.
It seems that W10 has really got a handle on the SSD :)