CAMERA IN THE FRAME: CHAT THREAD
ENTRIES THREAD HERE (http://cameracraniums.com/forum/index.php?topic=4305.new#new)
A simple theme for this week. Anything you like just as long as somewhere in the shot there is a recognisable camera. Be as inventive as you like; do a product shot or something more adventurous - it's up to you.
All photos to be taken by midnight on Sunday 29th March.
Pictures to be posted in the entries thread no later than 23.59pm Monday 30th March 2015.
Poll will be up Tuesday 31st March 2015.
Winner to be announced Saturday 4th April 2015.
The Rules for the weekly competition are...
By entering you agree to take responsibility to:
Post a topic on, or before the Sunday following your declared win
Create an entries thread
Create a chat thread
Create a poll for that weeks comp and declare the winner on the Saturday
(if for any reason there is a problem and no subject is posted by the winner by Monday night admin will advise second place winner to post the topic asap, do the poll etc
I like the simple ones, will see what I can come up with :idea:
I hope you can see the camera on the tripod,
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11372/normal_IMG_1079-3.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=17330&fullsize=1)
It might help a bit Jen if you're gallery images weren't so small - maybe consider uploading at 1200 (or more px) instead of 800px on the long side?
Notwithstanding that, yep I can see the camera on the tripod ;)
I have an idea this week but it's a bit elaborate and as usual I have no time. We shall see. Nice topic anyway H.
I haven't forgot about entering this, still coming up with a shot. Working all weekend but that won't deter me. Hopefully get something in over the weekend.
I haven't got the first idea about what to do for this . .
Mine will have to come from my daughters wedding - I`m sure there`ll be plenty of cameras there. Does and Ipad count as a camera if people are taking photos with it as I am sure there will be one or two of them around spoiling the official shots!
Course iPad counts. Go for it. Enjoy daughters wedding and hope all goes fab.
Interesting DD.
An iPad is to a camera as a car is to an armchair . . .
This is a photography forum not a DSLR forum. There's nothing anywhere in the rules that specifies what equipment you can and can't use. Its a competition and we want to attract as many entries as wecan, not put people off. I personally would only use my DSLR for any images I post here but that's my choice.
Does anyone else think an iPad shouldn't be used on here? An interesting debate Hinfrance.
Such a debate was started a couple of weeks ago, but obviously didn't excite many people and it fizzled out quite quickly, as usual. :doh:
http://cameracraniums.com/forum/index.php?topic=4289.0
Yes, a similar debate however, this specifically relates to here and the weekly comp which doesn't attract many sadly.
This is not about whether or not you can take photographs with a phone or a tablet. Entries taken with these appliances are not ruled out, as far as I am aware. And I'm sure, we have had entries taken on a mobile phone.
In this case however, the brief states that the image must have a recognisable camera in the frame. Phones and iPads are not cameras; if they were, Jinky would not have had to ask the question.
Quote from: DigiDiva on March 28, 2015, 12:51:32 PM
Yes, a similar debate however, this specifically relates to here and the weekly comp which doesn't attract many sadly.
Perhaps the briefs are not exciting or challenging enough . Who would have thought 'Fading light ' would be won by a sunset!
No-one has mentioned Scanners, after all decent images can be created using a scanner (flowers etc).
Quote from: Reinardina on March 28, 2015, 01:25:30 PM
This is not about whether or not you can take photographs with a phone or a tablet. Entries taken with these appliances are not ruled out, as far as I am aware. And I'm sure, we have had entries taken on a mobile phone.
In this case however, the brief states that the image must have a recognisable camera in the frame. Phones and iPads are not cameras; if they were, Jinky would not have had to ask the question.
But an image could be taken by an iPad or phone, that includes a camera in it.
Quote from: DigiDiva on March 28, 2015, 04:25:36 PM
But an image could be taken by an iPad or phone, that includes a camera in it.
I refer you to my earlier comment - cars have chairs in them, but they are not recognisably chairs. An iPad has a camera in it, but it is not a camera. Ask someone what an iPad is and 'camera' will not be the first word used to describe it. Ask my mate who works in IT that question and the answer wouldn't even be publishable :knuppel2:
You can sit in a car, but it is not a chair. You can take a photograph with an iPad, but an iPad is not a camera.
As always, the interpretation of the theme is within the purview of the voters, not the author of it, so enter whatever you want to ;)
Sadly, its arguments, debates and comments like these that put people off participating.
I agree Spikey. Which is why I suggested Jinky's iPad entry would be acceptble.
TBH I must agree that an iPad or phone IS NOT a camera, however there is nothing to say that you cannot take a picture of a camera with an iPad or phone is there?
I very much doubt this will put people off participating; it merely shows what photographers think of iPads.
And as Jeff stated, there's nothing preventing anyone taking a shot of a camera with an iPad.
With smartphones that now have a 16mpixle camera I must admit I always have mine with me. You never carry an SLR with you all the time so I find it convenient for that picture that would otherwise escape.
This may not be seen by "photographers" whoever they are, as a kosha way a taking pictures but it is better than letting a shot escape altogether. Once captured there are so many PP programmes to enhance it.
There is a place for a smartphone picture and maybe a section on this forum ( I know it has been suggested before ) would not go amiss.
What counts is the image\picture not how you captured it. :tup:
Remember when we did the pinhole camera theme, for those around then? We didn't use a pinhole camera but adapted our DSLR to be one. I actually learned a lot from that lesson.
Images taken by Smart phone (and possibly iPad), have featured in the competitions. I can see nothing wrong with that. As OB says, it's the image that counts.
A separate section for smart phone images? Not sure about that, it would spread the scant attention the site attracts, even further. But someone can always start a 'Smart phone Thread.'
Or even dedicate the occasional weekly, or even a separate monthly competition, to smart phone/iPad images.
Quite right Re - as OB says it doesn't matter what you use to capture an image, it's the image that counts. I don't think it matters one way or another if their is a separate section in the gallery for smartphone or tablet images. It might, however, draw attention to the results that can be achieved. Jen has an S5 and others have iPhone 5s and 6s, all of which have excellent cameras in them.
I personally do not possess a smartphone, and we are an Apple free zone. But we do have a Galaxy tablet.
Oh dear - just dropped in at the end of my wedding weekend and wished I`d never asked! As it happens I didn`t even get a p0icture of an Ipad being used a s a camera. I do know though that many people consider their Ipad as a camera hence me being certain there would be some there shooting with one. That said I was having such a wonderful time I quite forgot about even getting a competition image and will struggled to do so now. I do have images with cameras in them but won`t get a chance to edit until after the comp ends. Sorry for stirring up a hornets nest but sparked a debate anyway ;)
Glad you had a good time at the wedding, troublemaker!
I have my image but its very abstract!
Quote from: DigiDiva on March 29, 2015, 07:43:46 PM
I have my image but its very abstract!
Excellent! Let's see it :tup:
All processed. Will post it tomorrow morning
Heres my 'abstract' entry, just a bit of fun. I was playing with mirrors, initially having mirror tiles at angles for a kaleidoscope effect using both the camera I was using as the reflection and also with a chocolate camera someone once bought me and I never ate. But then I had this idea
Camera Face
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11291/normal_Camera_Face.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=17345&fullsize=1)
Nice one Chris.
To be honest, I had expected more 'selfies,' but they may yet come.
Nothing from me I'm afraid. In France with rubbish Internet and no PC. It's taken me 3 days to post this. Will try for next week. Good luck to everyone.
Quote from: Reinardina on March 30, 2015, 09:04:54 AM
Nice one Chris.
To be honest, I had expected more 'selfies,' but they may yet come.
I've got a selfie of sorts all ready to go. Just need to post it when I get home tonight.
Just couldn't come up with anything for this, short of just taking a photo of a camera. Alas a suitably interesting set up just didn't come to the fore :-\
Quote from: Matthew on March 30, 2015, 07:48:19 PM
Just couldn't come up with anything for this, short of just taking a photo of a camera. Alas a suitably interesting set up just didn't come to the fore :-\
You disappoint me! A selfie á la DD, with your beard in full frontal view, could have been very ... interesting/ scary/beautiful/impressive/whatever. Definitely different!
Maybe the beard could feature in the next one..... ;) :tup:
Here's mine. This is actually my first SLR, inherited at the age of 13, long broken but I don't have the heart to throw it away.
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10157/normal_OGG_3394-Edit.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=17346&fullsize=1)
I was hoping for a few more entries, but as it is I am finding it really hard to choose between two I am very impressed by.
This might sway you about phone cameras one way or the other. :D
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3018703/Sony-World-Photography-Awards-introduces-moblie-phone-competition.html :o
Not sure about the winner? :doh:
Quote from: Oldboy on March 31, 2015, 10:03:48 AM
This might sway you about phone cameras one way or the other. :D
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3018703/Sony-World-Photography-Awards-introduces-moblie-phone-competition.html :o
Not sure about the winner? :doh:
Great images, and, dare I say it, probably taken by photographers. People with an eye for subject, and composition anyway.
Didn't realise, there are special lenses for mobile phones!
Interesting
Quote from: Reinardina on March 31, 2015, 10:19:12 AM
Didn't realise, there are special lenses for mobile phones!
Not just lenses but software as well like the panorama option built into Sony phones. ;)
Don't forget I have just a mobile phone, no camera. Don't know the first thing about them.
Horses for courses Re - a decent smartphone costs more than a good camera and a decent 'phone, but does loads more besides. I have no use for the loads more besides and frankly having to recharge something every 24 or 48 hours bores me. My dual SIM 'phone cost £35, plays mp3s, takes a 16gb SD card (for the tunes), lasts 2 weeks on one 2 hour charge, and my non 3/4G contract costs me £3.50 a month for more hours of calls I'll ever use and unlimited texts. Meets my needs. More money left for music!
Hinfrance, I totally agree. I don't do mega tech for my mobile though I do like having the internet at hand when required.
Smartphone is a work tool with a camera so as said it is always with me. I use mine every day for the loads more besides", it's my sat nav, diary and contacts book and gets plugged in every night so TBH I could not be without it sad as it is.
I don't think that's sad Jeff. I'm sure that I would be toting a smartphone if I was still living and working in the UK. I was until I retired what is called an 'early adopter'.
Now I'm a next year, sometime, maybe never, adopter.
I agree with H. You're running a business Jeff, so you probably need one.
Mine is a pay-as-you-go, and costs me less that £20 a year, I think. If that. Only use it for emergencies, texting and to order a taxi every now and again. Use it more as a phone when I'm in Holland, and don't have a landline available.
I'm sure if I had a smart phone, I'd never be off the Internet.
I must admit I use mine all the time for diary / calendar / emails / facebook / checking on CC/ playing backgammon and suduko when bored /whatsapp/ skysports check in/ booking half price restaurants with my Hi Life and Tastecard apps/ booking hotels on tours /as a torch/ sunset times/ Iplayer/ phoning home free from abroad using a Virgin app and loads more. But I never use it as a camera because it is rubbish! I`m quite the convert but my contract has just run out and so rather than pay out loads for the latest one I have a £5 per month deal that gives me enough talk time/ data and unlimited texts with the ability to do all this. Why wouldn`t you?
That was an advert on behalf of Virgin Media Mobile ;)
Quote from: jinky on April 01, 2015, 07:21:23 PM
Why wouldn`t you?
Because the 'phones need charging nearly every day. Tiresome! And I have the tablet for that other stuff.
Mine does the torch thing, and it's submersible but doesn't float. My contract is with Virgin too . .