A few from the garden this morning before I go to work...
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(http://www.neesam.com/photos7/IMG_0606.jpg) (http://www.neesam.com/photos7/IMG_0606.jpg)
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(http://www.neesam.com/photos7/IMG_0614.jpg) (http://www.neesam.com/photos7/IMG_0614.jpg)
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(http://www.neesam.com/photos7/IMG_0615.jpg) (http://www.neesam.com/photos7/IMG_0615.jpg)
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(http://www.neesam.com/photos7/IMG_0616.jpg) (http://www.neesam.com/photos7/IMG_0616.jpg)
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(http://www.neesam.com/photos7/IMG_0640.jpg) (http://www.neesam.com/photos7/IMG_0640.jpg)
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(http://www.neesam.com/photos7/IMG_0651.jpg) (http://www.neesam.com/photos7/IMG_0651.jpg)
All these photos were taken on my iPhone.
I am jealous, I won't see that kind of life in my garden until probably mid April. :'(
Scrolling through the pics ...yeah, nice shots...oh..number three yellow flower shame the focus isn't on the tip of the stamen. Scroll a bit futher "Taken on my iphone"!
Hells Teeth! :tup:
Graham. :)
iPhone...................who needs a DSLR :-\
Certainly cracking shots for detail - what is the iphone like on landscapes ? :o
Thanks for the comments. I am loving my iPhoneography, I'm amazed at what you can do with a little camera phone.
As photographic images they're something you can be proud of.
And as adverts for iPhones they're superb. By the time iPhone 6 is in production will anyone at all still want a camera?
Quote from: michaelb104 on March 02, 2012, 04:40:40 PM
iPhone...................who needs a DSLR :-\
DSLRs are cheaper :legit:
Quote from: Hinfrance on March 03, 2012, 02:32:05 PM;D
Quote from: michaelb104 on March 02, 2012, 04:40:40 PM
iPhone...................who needs a DSLR :-\
DSLRs are cheaper :legit:
Quite true :)
Worry when Mrs H can ring you on your K5. ;D :legit:
You won't get much choice of DSLR for 300-400 quid, and it won't wake you up in the morning, send and receive text messages, keep your diary, remind you of important events/meetings, let you process photographs, learn about the night sky, make video conference calls, browse the Internet, etc, etc. Oh, and make phone calls.
But anyway, it's all irrelevant as its the photographer, not the camera that counts, right?
Seriously though, I've found a certain amount of pretentiousness amongs some photographers who spend all their time telling you it's the photographer not the equipment (usually when your camera is better than theirs) but when they find out you've entered iPhone photos into their camera club competition, nobody noticed and one of them got in the top 6 out of 50, they suddenly get all stuffy and start asking whether that sortof thing should be allowed.
it does make me laugh.
iPhone 4 is £560 near enough. But any 'phone that tried to wake me up in the morning would be down the toilet before the fist arpeggio had decayed.
Yep, they do take jolly good pictures.
But equipment does matter, to a degree. Try entering a Fomula 1 race with a G-Wiz and see how successful you are.
I do have a 'smart' phone, but would rather my old 3 weeks on one charge of the battery 'phone hadn't broken. Having to put the new thing on charge every couple of days is total PITA.
Our household now has a cheap Android tablet thingy too. I don't know about ice cream sandwich, but it's not getting on terrible well with butter and marmalade . . I guess I'm just old fashioned, but touch screen devices are all just so horrible to use. ::)
I think your analogy with formula one isn't very good. It suggests that the only possible reason for a journey is to get there as fast as possible. I'm not sure how you equate it to photography really, there are loads of reasons why a formula 1 car would to totally useless or at least far worse than a G-Wiz as a form of transport.
What analogy are you making to camera equipment and the end product, an image?
Oh, and you can get an iPhone 4 for for £299, iPhone 4S RRP is £499 to start, available for less if you look round eg £430 at Best Gadgets.
My wife hated touch screen phones, probably because my older LG had a slow system. I gave her my iPhone 3S at Christmas, after a week of using it she now loves the touch screen system, she's hardly ever off the bloody thing.
Pretty good images but......
Quote from: Cathus on March 03, 2012, 07:16:03 PM
<snip> .... when they find out you've entered iPhone photos into their camera club competition, nobody noticed and one of them got in the top 6 out of 50, they suddenly get all stuffy and start asking whether that sort of thing should be allowed.
it does make me laugh.
.... not very observant if anyone thinks the camera's on equal with a dSLR - just look at the edges for the distortion. But I've had an image in a national paper from my mobile (and most definitely
not an iPhone which can produce OK shots - an SE is what I've used) - the trick is to play to the strengths and work around the weaknesses - and not tell or explain! ;)
I wonder whether you'd have commented about distortion if I hadn't revealed they were iPhone photos? Maybe I shouldn't have said and waited to see if anyone noticed.
Also, don't forget, these shots are with an add-on lens which, just like a DSLR with a cheap add on lens, will degrade whatever was available without the add-on. And the shots were taken yesterday, these are not the shots I entered in the camera club competition 2 weeks go, which were straight shots from the phone.
Quote from: Cathus on March 03, 2012, 11:02:14 PM
I wonder whether you'd have commented about distortion if I hadn't revealed they were iPhone photos? Maybe I shouldn't have said and waited to see if anyone noticed.
LOL! It was going to be poor use of a Lensbaby or some dreadful PP or filter 'effect' - but you provided a "better" explanation. And no, I wouldn't have "noticed" (i.e. commented) if you hadn't said but put it down to LB or PP! I've seen some great shots from iPhones but also a lot of rubbish ones - but by the same token, some really great shots from other makes (it's only the more recent iPhones that have slightly better cameras!) and a lot of rubbish ones - and the new Nokia already produces shots that knock 'em all (unsurprisingly, if used properly)
I think your garden shots are fine.
For my analogy, imagine you are a wildlife photographer. How much use is a camera phone going to be? I venture to suggest it would just be baggage.
I'm glad that there are people offering substantial discounts on these things, because they don't seem very good value to me at half the list price, but that I accept is a matter of personal preference.
It's not the speed of the underlying device where I have issues with a touch screen interface. In order to use such a device you have to either hold it in one hand or prop it up on something. In either case your ability to enter instructions is limited. A finger is, also (and especially with my spatulated bass player fingers) not a very precise pointing instrument. Capacitive screens are also a complete pain if you have 'magic fingers', which seem to run in our family, and because you cannot use a stylus, unlike with a resistive screen. Of course almost all devices these days have capacitive screens because they are 'better'.
When I try to use my Android 'phone, or a friend's iPad I find it almost impossible to navigate around the screen. The moment I touch the screen in an attempt to scroll this way or that whatever my finger happens upon is activated before I can finish a navigation gesture, 9 times out of 10.
The only good thing about the tablet my daughter has just acquired is that it has a 16:9 screen and is therefore OK for watching films on if there is nothing else about the place to enjoy that sort of thing. ;)
You can use a stylus on the iPhone and iPad.
There is a neat app which I use to create model releases, it then emails a PDF copy to the model and photographer, we both sign the release using a stylus.
Using it is a matter of personal preference & getting used to it, I'm 6'3" 18stone with hands and fingers to match those proportions and I don' have any problems. If you like you can have a split keyboard and use both hands to text, like my kids do on their normal phones.
I'm not saying a camera phone will replace my DSLR, merely that it can take some very good shots and despite Markulous' comments, can surprise even very good photographers. He seems to be the only one describing the above shots as very poor.
I don't really care what kind of camera a pic is taken on, be it a 10/8 plate camera or a shoe box with a bit of photo paper and a pin hole.
If you know that whatever you are useing degrades towards the edge, or has any other characteristics, then use them to your advantage. Which is what I think Gary has done here.
I supose the best answer to "What's the best camera?" is "The one you've got with you!" and I'm sure more folks will be found to have an *iphone in there pocket than any other picture taking device.
Graham. :)
* Other mobile devices are available.
It's all a process of development.
When digital came out I thought it would take me a very long time to switch over as I couldn't forsee a time when digital would equal film quality (there are some who say it still hasn't). While other people were well into digital, I was still shooting film and very happy with it.
Then I got a 1.2mp digital camera, the quality wasn't the best, but I started to enjoy using it, then I saved up for a Canon 10D, by the time I had the money the 20D was out, I've upgraded since.
Whilst I have some really fine camera gear, I've started to realise over the last year or so that it's not actually the gear that I enjoy using, though I do, it's the taking of photographs that really keeps me involved in this game.
Last year I bought a compact camera, nothing fantastic or expensive, but one that I can wear on my belt all the time, just in case. I don't use it every day, but it's with me 70% of the time. I certainly can't have a big DSLR and a 600mm lens within grabbing distance all the time.
I started seeing people having fun taking pics with camera phones and started using mine more, then I explored it a bit more and ended up upgrading my phone because of it. Now I take photos every day on it. My eyes are open wherever I go to photographic opportunities, you look at the world in a different way.
I reckon I will end up a better photographer because I'm doing that rather than getting my latest DSLR and L series lens one a month and taking what you might think are technically perfect, high quality photographs.
Last autumn I started taking photos on film again. Just a couple of days ago I got a film back taken on a 1950s Coronet Captain box camera. Some people would have a field day slagging those off for quality, but they are what they are and they are just a small section of this whole wide world that is photography.
But that's my photographic journey, yours will be different, and good for you.
The reason I posted these photos was to show people who might not know that camera phones don't just have to be really grainy, underexposed shots of drunkeness at night. I merely mention the iPhone as that is what I have experience of. I have no doubt that other phones have cameras well capable of good photography, and also that as technology moves on, they will only get better and better.
Couldn't agree more.
I too have a compact camera with me most of the time; the camera on my cheap 'phone really is dreadful. I'm off around to a friend's place this afternoon - I'll take a few shots and upload them so we can all have a laugh ;D*
*If I can work out how to get them off of the 'phone - as you may have guessed I don't use it very much.
If anybody want's me, I'll be in the shed...Back in a mo'.
Graham.
Righty ho. Where were we?
Ah yes.....There you go!....What's wrong with that then? :knuppel2:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7056/6806197720_baaccf503d_b.jpg)
You left the top of the nail sticking out. Could have someone's eye out with that . .
Quote from: Hinfrance on March 04, 2012, 03:46:26 PM
You left the top of the nail sticking out. Could have someone's eye out with that . .
It's a work in progress!
Anyway, sorry to hijack the thread.
Graham. :)
I wonder how far off it is before DSLRs take on some of the functionality of mobile phones as mobile phones take on the functions of cameras. We're already moving onto video convergence, wifi/remote transmission of files, basic editing.
Quote from: Cathus on March 04, 2012, 04:55:44 PM
I wonder how far off it is before DSLRs take on some of the functionality of mobile phones as mobile phones take on the functions of cameras. We're already moving onto video convergence, wifi/remote transmission of files, basic editing.
So the tog, seemingly taking a shaky picture of their own ear or listening for a rattle in the lens; is actually taking some gripe from the mother-in-law :2funny:
I did wonder a while back how long it will be for cameras aimed at the press bods (D3s and the like.) to be able to email jpegs direct from the camera.
Cant be that dificult to combine the two technologies. ::)
Graham.
Finally figured out how to get the pictures from this afternoon off of my 'phone.
I've done curves and a bit of sharpening, but they are surprisingly not utterly awful, just mostly awful. Apologies for the subject matter ;)
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10146/normal_Garden_welcome_a_flickr.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11465&fullsize=1)
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10146/normal_baskets_flickr.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11464&fullsize=1)
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10146/normal_keyboard_flickr.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11466&fullsize=1)
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10146/normal_Sink_flickr.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11468&fullsize=1)
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10146/normal_Stilton_flickr.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11469&fullsize=1)
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10146/normal_Door_flickr.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11471&fullsize=1)
(http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10146/normal_shutter_flickr.jpg) (http://cameracraniums.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=11472&fullsize=1)
I quite like the one with the dog in.
Quote from: Graham on March 04, 2012, 06:37:35 PM
I did wonder a while back how long it will be for cameras aimed at the press bods (D3s and the like.) to be able to email jpegs direct from the camera.
Cant be that dificult to combine the two technologies. ::)
Graham.
Well, there's always http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/eye-fi-wifi-memory/ - but realistically, there's these http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/664918-REG/Canon_4263B001_WFT_E4_IIA_Wireless_File.html
I've always used whatever came to hand - better to get the shot than to lose out because of saving for a "good" bit of kit or reluctance to risk the dSLR. As a result, I've some enjoyable shots gained from using mobiles, compacts, M42 lenses, etc. But, when all's said and done, I might've got this mobile image in May 2008 (who says you can't get wildlife with a mobile?!!)........
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/Markulous/Mobile%20-%20noshow/DSC00775a.jpg)
........ but I think I know which camera I prefer to use (you can see the distortion in the edges in the above shot)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/Markulous/Wild%20Mammals/_MG_2175aa.jpg)
You can even do panos with a phone - this is in Cardiff in Sep 2007 (well, strictly speaking, Penarth - Cardiff Bay lock gates!). You need to stand on the precise spot (unmarked except for a small X on the ground) to get the paint lines to all align correctly but the mobile didn't have the wide enough angle, so took two shots
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/Markulous/Mobile%20-%20noshow/Pano1.jpg)
This is one of the earliest shots I took with the mobile (#17, to be precise!), of Kata Tjuta as we came in to land (on our Oz trip in March 2006) - camera was well packed away
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/Markulous/Mobile%20-%20noshow/DSC00017.jpg)
But, more recently, I've used my mobile to get shots I couldn't with the dSLR, like this of Chatsworth 'Beyond Limits' sculpture in Sept 2009
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/Markulous/Mobile%20-%20noshow/DSC00312.jpg)
And when we got our rescue dog 18 months ago and wanted to text a shot
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/Markulous/Mobile%20-%20noshow/DSC00782.jpg)
So, as you can see, I'm very happy and prepared to use my phone to take shots and always have it in mind - but I'll still use my dSLR by preference as I know I'll get better results. Having said that, the new Nokia will certainly raise the bar and I certainly see phones going that way: high MP sensor which can be condensed to smaller MPs to give better quality (in much the same way as Bayer sensors work on most digital cameras). Certainly the examples look absolutely amazing!