A little while ago, I posted a thread on there about continually getting logged out. Well, its happened again. So if anyone feels like posting the following in that thread it would be great:
"Well, folks its happened again and I can't be bothered to log back in AGAIN so so long and thanks for the chat over the years"
Cheers :)
I've seen Abers posting there recently. I look at it from time to time, but never bother to log in.
I do occasionally, but only to moan about the lack of usability. I've suggested various things, and pointed out problems, but nothing changes. That bloody "Things to look at" list must be like a novel by now. :D
Rgrds
Victor Meldrew. :legit:
Quote from: admin on May 13, 2011, 07:43:34 PM
I do occasionally, but only to moan about the lack of usability. I've suggested various things, and pointed out problems, but nothing changes. That bloody "Things to look at" list must be like a novel by now. :D
Rgrds
Victor Meldrew. :legit:
It's been put into the recycle bin...... :uglystupid2:
I post on the forums as I'm doing a post graduate degree in Devil's Advocating. :legit:
haven't been there in ages - i refused when i was told to butt out and mind my own business cos i clearly didn't know what i was talking about.
I also asked them to delete my log in details etc...
I`ve looked in odd times, posted even less and rarely bother to sign in as I seem to have to do so twice and get logged out regularly. Not been on anywhere much lately with a two week break from all things photographic for some reason - just lost my mojo
I popped in to look at a couple of images in a members gallery following their request today :) and always happy to do so.
Other than that I have visited on rare occasion for a :2funny: and then :legit: as nothing changes much towards encouraging better photography. :beer:
Perhaps a few more may meander over to here :tup:
Quote from: beauxreflets on May 14, 2011, 08:04:02 AM
Perhaps a few more may meander over to here :tup:
Well they'er most welcome, but we don't accept just any old riffraff you know. :P
Graham.
Quote from: Graham on May 14, 2011, 08:16:53 AM
but we don't accept just any old riffraff you know. :P
Graham.
Are you saying some people do not get accepted when applying to register for this site? :-X
And long may it reign, though i think an invite should be sent to Stan and a few others :legit: :2funny:
Quote from: beauxreflets on May 14, 2011, 08:04:02 AM
Perhaps a few more may meander over to here :tup:
That would be nice, but I've tried to advertise this site over there as much as I dare. Without doing some serious spamming I haven't a clue how to entice them. ???
Quote from: admin on May 14, 2011, 08:42:19 AM
Quote from: beauxreflets on May 14, 2011, 08:04:02 AM
Perhaps a few more may meander over to here :tup:
That would be nice, but I've tried to advertise this site over there as much as I dare. Without doing some serious spamming I haven't a clue how to entice them. ???
I have no wish to reregister there but if someone mentioned the Serif comp on here in competition or of topic area it may generate some interest :tup:
Quote from: Graham on May 14, 2011, 08:16:53 AM
Quote from: beauxreflets on May 14, 2011, 08:04:02 AM
Perhaps a few more may meander over to here :tup:
Well they'er most welcome, but we don't accept just any old riffraff you know. :P
Graham.
Sounds good :beer:
Don't even buy the mag any more. If a camera ain't got 5 letters in it's name, it's condemned for not being a camera whose name consists not of 4 letters, nor 6 letters may it's name have. 7 letters is a most definite no-no, for 5 is the magic number..... :dance:
Quote from: Graham on May 14, 2011, 08:16:53 AM
Well they'er most welcome, but we don't accept just any old riffraff you know. :P
Graham.
That begs the question....How did you get on here? :P :legit:
Quote from: Oldboy on May 15, 2011, 12:01:12 AM
Quote from: Graham on May 14, 2011, 08:16:53 AM
Well they'er most welcome, but we don't accept just any old riffraff you know. :P
Graham.
That begs the question....How did you get on here? :P :legit:
I dug my
own tunnel! :)
Quote from: Graham on May 15, 2011, 07:31:53 AM
Quote from: Oldboy on May 15, 2011, 12:01:12 AM
Quote from: Graham on May 14, 2011, 08:16:53 AM
Well they'er most welcome, but we don't accept just any old riffraff you know. :P
Graham.
That begs the question....How did you get on here? :P :legit:
I dug my own tunnel! :)
;D
Quote from: Carlj on May 14, 2011, 11:27:37 PM
Don't even buy the mag any more. If a camera ain't got 5 letters in it's name, it's condemned for not being a camera whose name consists not of 4 letters, nor 6 letters may it's name have. 7 letters is a most definite no-no, for 5 is the magic number..... :dance:
Completely agree with this.
It's one of the reasons I stopped getting the mag, that and the repetition............ of the same old, same old ::)
I pop in and have a read if I'm a bit bored at work but I cannot remember the last time I saw a serious conversation about photography – maybe I'm just not looking in the right place ;)
Took all my pics off..................... I think
Went off the site when it changed from Dital to Radar
Photo Radar : Photo radar is a speed enforcement tool operated by trained police officers in a marked police vehicle
...if I look in I get an error message and Opera closes down...very convenient..... :doh:
Quote from: Beryl on May 16, 2011, 05:46:38 AM
Went off the site when it changed from Dital to Radar
Quote from: michaelb104 on May 15, 2011, 11:09:08 AM
Completely agree with this.
It's one of the reasons I stopped getting the mag, that and the repetition............ of the same old, same old ::)
^^^All those reasons for me ;)
Lost my photography mojo for a long time but really starting to get back in to it again now....even looking at getting a D7000 in a few weeks!
Quote from: greypoint on May 16, 2011, 06:55:04 AM
...if I look in I get an error message and Opera closes down...very convenient..... :doh:
Interesting - I use Opera and don't have that problem - I'm running version 11.10
Quote from: Hinfrance on May 16, 2011, 08:38:27 AM
Quote from: greypoint on May 16, 2011, 06:55:04 AM
...if I look in I get an error message and Opera closes down...very convenient..... :doh:
Interesting - I use Opera and don't have that problem - I'm running version 11.10
So am I - the error message was to do with a flash player problem making opera close down. I've just installed an update so it might be sorted....not that makes any difference to wanting to use the site ;D
Twice today on PR I've seem pictures edited by members with no by-your-leave requested from the picture's authors. Plain bad manners I'm afraid. ::)
I guess PR boils down to personal opinion of an individual's expectations :tup: and I decided awhile back that it was certainly not the best place for me to be seen in ;) :beer:
Nope gave up on pr AGES ago, only frequent here and dyxum (alpha mount site very helpful people just like here)
Got bored of the mag as someone else said, every year they'd trot out the same old same old "Take Better Spring/Summer/Autumn/Winter Shots" and only ever reviewed CANIK no or very little mention of Olympus, Pentax or Sony cameras never mind the fact that they are all good makes with lots to offer.
Didn't like the perceived "rights grab" issue when uploading shots to their gallery,
didn't like the way the site was/wasn't moderated,
didn't particularly like the forum lay out or the people on it, and as pretty much everyone I ever communicated with over there is here I stay here... :tup:
This is a much nicer place more friendly, tongue in cheek bitching rather than serious nastiness ;) and helpful advice and constructive criticism rather than "destructive" criticism which is what I seemed to get on PR >:(
Still go on there nearly every day and post comments/advice. There are still a lot of decent members there just a shame it wasn't designed for photographers to uses as the old DCM site was. :uglystupid2:
Yeah, I still use it. Although I only upload my weekend comp entries to it now. I mainly use it for the weekend comps, although its still going strong with new entrants and members having a go, it hasn't really been the same since the last "bust up" :knuppel2: I wont go into details, its all water under the bridge.
I now upload my images from shoots either on here or FlickR....
...noticed a post from Stan the other day when I took a look :tup:
Quote from: greypoint on May 17, 2011, 10:00:29 PM
...noticed a post from Stan the other day when I took a look :tup:
Wasn't Stan the only person to get banned from DCM?
Must be getting desperate if they've let him back in...
And how is Gil? Still chirpy as ever?
Quote from: picsfor on May 17, 2011, 11:22:19 PM
Quote from: greypoint on May 17, 2011, 10:00:29 PM
...noticed a post from Stan the other day when I took a look :tup:
Wasn't Stan the only person to get banned from DCM?
Must be getting desperate if they've let him back in...
And how is Gil? Still chirpy as ever?
I think Gil was also banned as was Flake. :doh:
I find it a mixed uo complicated site and I can't be vbothered with it any more
Quote from: Beryl on May 17, 2011, 11:53:19 PM
I find it a mixed uo complicated site and I can't be vbothered with it any more
It's not complicated, it just doesn't work - Full stop. >:(
Stan always finds a way back in...you just have to pick up on the clues to guess who's behind a certain pseudonym. They could make it a competition for members to guess :dance:
Chris Patterson (shelfy) got himself banned too - for profanity I think - I mean, shelfy and a bit of bad language, who'd have thought it? The site lost a lot of humour when he got fired.
I must have missed the whole 'Stan' thing. Don't know who that is or what was going on there. But I can be incredibly dull sometimes. :legit:
Reading posts like this is the only time I think about PR. But I have to say, I do miss some of the banter from the old days with DCM. I am not very good with names, but I remember a Yorkshireman with the avatar of a fierce Viking and the Seahorse (GIL?) who supplied me with a daily dose of humour. Some people actually got married thanks to the site and loads of friends were made. Those were the days that JR was offering tuition for minimal costs. (I was goin to say a tuppence but that would be unfair LOL) Yes, I often think back about DCM with fond memories. I stopped buying the magazine when they took the nice oversize down for the second time to the normal magazine size. The only sites I now look at are CC and PhotoPing for nostalgic reasons.
Quote from: Oldboy on May 17, 2011, 11:27:52 PM
Quote from: picsfor on May 17, 2011, 11:22:19 PM
Quote from: greypoint on May 17, 2011, 10:00:29 PM
...noticed a post from Stan the other day when I took a look :tup:
Wasn't Stan the only person to get banned from DCM?
Must be getting desperate if they've let him back in...
And how is Gil? Still chirpy as ever?
I think Gil was also banned as was Flake. :doh:
Was Gil the person who always just going on holiday or just coming back from holiday and seemed to disagree with everyone or have I got the wrong person and being very unfair.
Quote from: michaelb104 on May 18, 2011, 08:36:59 AM
Quote from: Oldboy on May 17, 2011, 11:27:52 PM
Quote from: picsfor on May 17, 2011, 11:22:19 PM
Quote from: greypoint on May 17, 2011, 10:00:29 PM
...noticed a post from Stan the other day when I took a look :tup:
Wasn't Stan the only person to get banned from DCM?
Must be getting desperate if they've let him back in...
And how is Gil? Still chirpy as ever?
I think Gil was also banned as was Flake. :doh:
Was Gil the person who always just going on holiday or just coming back from holiday and seemed to disagree with everyone or have I got the wrong person and being very unfair.
No you are correct, and it was usually Spain. 8)
Quote from: Simple on May 18, 2011, 08:08:43 AM
Those were the days that JR was offering tuition for minimal costs. (I was goin to say a tuppence but that would be unfair LOL)
Funny you should say that. Just about to launch a new location lighting course for 50 quid ;) http://peoplebyryan.com/photoblog/picnic-table-bride
Quote from: Simple on May 18, 2011, 08:08:43 AM
Reading posts like this is the only time I think about PR. But I have to say, I do miss some of the banter from the old days with DCM. I am not very good with names, but I remember a Yorkshireman with the avatar of a fierce Viking and the Seahorse (GIL?) who supplied me with a daily dose of humour. Some people actually got married thanks to the site and loads of friends were made. Those were the days that JR was offering tuition for minimal costs. (I was goin to say a tuppence but that would be unfair LOL) Yes, I often think back about DCM with fond memories. I stopped buying the magazine when they took the nice oversize down for the second time to the normal magazine size. The only sites I now look at are CC and PhotoPing for nostalgic reasons.
The viking from many years ago was Brian Waugh [known for his fondness for chocolate raisins!] The seahorse, I think, was Rik Moncur
Quote from: Hinfrance on May 18, 2011, 07:18:01 AM
Chris Patterson (shelfy) got himself banned too - for profanity I think - I mean, shelfy and a bit of bad language, who'd have thought it? The site lost a lot of humour when he got fired.
I don't think shelfy was banned, but left after his rude but very funny picture was removed. ;D
Yes. When Shelfy left a lot of the sparkle went, he went off to live on the west coast of Ireland I seem to remember.
But FLAKE....BANNED.... with her (His/whatever.) encyclopedic knowledge of...well everything! :o
Graham.
And whatever happend to Alan Ingham, KeithT and Veggiesosage.....I miss the advice and constructive comments that Alan and Keith used to give especially to newcomers like I was at the time, and I miss Veggies wit once you got to know his posts you realised he was just one of those guys with a sarcastic sense of humour but was never nasty as I remember....there was a couple of others as well whose names completely escape me at the moment...
I thought I saw Keith T on here recently - or am I imagining that ?
Quote from: Paul Montgomery on May 18, 2011, 07:18:28 PM
I thought I saw Keith T on here recently - or am I imagining that ?
Keith T is on there from time to time...
Quote from: krennon on May 18, 2011, 07:09:34 PM
And whatever happend to Alan Ingham, KeithT and Veggiesosage.....I miss the advice and constructive comments that Alan and Keith used to give especially to newcomers like I was at the time, and I miss Veggies wit once you got to know his posts you realised he was just one of those guys with a sarcastic sense of humour but was never nasty as I remember....there was a couple of others as well whose names completely escape me at the moment...
Veggiesosage is registered on here but hasn't been on for some time. Alan Ingham is still on PR but under another name. ;D
QuoteAnyone still frequent photoradar?
Yup! Still do! But having joined here, maybe a bit less! ;)
Just had another look - yes, still a few friendly helpful folk - and still some who seem to have had a sense of humour by-pass. Same as most forums I suppose but not exactly busy for a site with so many 'active' users. Not much input from the staff - a little from Amy but the others seem largely absent. I gave up bothering largely due to lack of interest and the presence of someone I always avoided in the old days of DCMag and found it hard to avoid on PR!! Oh well - as long as people keep clicking on it the revenue from the ads will continue and thats the most important thing ;)
Just had a look at that shite. Which brand is more reliable? Canon, Nikon, Pentax, etc...
One reply was "Canon and Nikon have the most lenses"...
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8916/housefacepalmreasonably.jpg)
Has anyone else heard of the Pentax K mount, or did I just dream that one up? Well done fauxtoradar, keep up the quality.
I've only just come from there, and will certainly keep an eye. Probably till I get the hang of this site.
I told Lepach that I had registered here, as we both deplored the fact that a lot of the accomplished photographers had left, after a spat about pp.
The weekend competition is in a muddle at the moment, with a lot of inexperienced photographers (some more inexperienced than I).
We both missed the competent, positive, neutral and most of all helpful, critiques you guys used to give.
And ... received a PM from Lepach, saying he had registered too. So that's two newbies in one day.
I dare not, however, advertise too openly, as I hope to avoid some people over there.
Quote from: Reinardina on June 05, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
I dare not, however, advertise too openly, as I hope to avoid some people over there.
You mean like ME? :2funny: :2funny:
Now that would be agist, and at my age, I simply cannot afford that!
Quote from: Reinardina on June 05, 2011, 12:45:19 PM
Now that would be agist, and at my age, I simply cannot afford that!
:2funny: :2funny:
I left that site (thought I'm still registered) to join Photo.pic. That was a nice littls site then drifted in Cyberspace until I met up with Carl again ..................you know the rest ::)
Quote from: Beryl on June 05, 2011, 10:10:03 PM
I left that site (thought I'm still registered) to join Photo.pic. That was a nice littls site then drifted in Cyberspace until I met up with Carl again ..................you know the rest ::)
Actually, I don't! So, if you're in the mood to tell a story, bring me up to date. The more I know, the sooner I'll settle in.
Quote from: Reinardina on June 05, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
I've only just come from there, and will certainly keep an eye. Probably till I get the hang of this site.
I told Lepach that I had registered here, as we both deplored the fact that a lot of the accomplished photographers had left, after a spat about pp.
The weekend competition is in a muddle at the moment, with a lot of inexperienced photographers (some more inexperienced than I).
We both missed the competent, positive, neutral and most of all helpful, critiques you guys used to give.
And ... received a PM from Lepach, saying he had registered too. So that's two newbies in one day.
I dare not, however, advertise too openly, as I hope to avoid some people over there.
Thought the correct answer was "The one with most firmware updates to make the camera work!!!" :dance:
Quote from: Carlj on June 05, 2011, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: Reinardina on June 05, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
I've only just come from there, and will certainly keep an eye. Probably till I get the hang of this site.
I told Lepach that I had registered here, as we both deplored the fact that a lot of the accomplished photographers had left, after a spat about pp.
The weekend competition is in a muddle at the moment, with a lot of inexperienced photographers (some more inexperienced than I).
We both missed the competent, positive, neutral and most of all helpful, critiques you guys used to give.
And ... received a PM from Lepach, saying he had registered too. So that's two newbies in one day.
I dare not, however, advertise too openly, as I hope to avoid some people over there.
Thought the correct answer was "The one with most firmware updates to make the camera work!!!" :dance:
Can you fill me in on the question? I don't 'get' it, but it is getting a bit late ...
Quote from: Carlj on June 05, 2011, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: Reinardina on June 05, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
I've only just come from there, and will certainly keep an eye. Probably till I get the hang of this site.
I told Lepach that I had registered here, as we both deplored the fact that a lot of the accomplished photographers had left, after a spat about pp.
The weekend competition is in a muddle at the moment, with a lot of inexperienced photographers (some more inexperienced than I).
We both missed the competent, positive, neutral and most of all helpful, critiques you guys used to give.
And ... received a PM from Lepach, saying he had registered too. So that's two newbies in one day.
I dare not, however, advertise too openly, as I hope to avoid some people over there.
Thought the correct answer was "The one with most firmware updates to make the camera work!!!" :dance:
Carl, just reading your signature. Do you use the live view much? I've got the A350, I find it makes me seasick or something similar whenever I try to use it.
Quote from: Reinardina on June 05, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
I've only just come from there, and will certainly keep an eye. Probably till I get the hang of this site.
I told Lepach that I had registered here, as we both deplored the fact that a lot of the accomplished photographers had left, after a spat about pp.
The weekend competition is in a muddle at the moment, with a lot of inexperienced photographers (some more inexperienced than I).
I would never leave a site about disagreements over themes / post processing allowed. What made me leave was the attitue of some on there and how rude a few "new lights" were to established forum contributors who did not deserve it. Hope you enjoy it here Reinardina - you won`t even be asked to change your name to make it easier to spell it on here ;)
Oops - the quote should have been the mention of "Which camera is the most reliable? Answer Canikon have the most lenses..."
Spinner. No longer have the A300 - just the A200...oh and a brand spanking new A55! Strictly speaking, due to EVF, I use nothing but liveview. But yes, now I use it all the time, with the articulated screen, I'm shooting high and low and HD video using the lcd mostly. Normal shooting does utilise the viewfinder though, with liveview for static manual focus confirmation and awkward positional shots...
Carl
Quote from: spinner on June 06, 2011, 03:22:50 AM
Quote from: Carlj on June 05, 2011, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: Reinardina on June 05, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
I've only just come from there, and will certainly keep an eye. Probably till I get the hang of this site.
I told Lepach that I had registered here, as we both deplored the fact that a lot of the accomplished photographers had left, after a spat about pp.
The weekend competition is in a muddle at the moment, with a lot of inexperienced photographers (some more inexperienced than I).
We both missed the competent, positive, neutral and most of all helpful, critiques you guys used to give.
And ... received a PM from Lepach, saying he had registered too. So that's two newbies in one day.
I dare not, however, advertise too openly, as I hope to avoid some people over there.
Thought the correct answer was "The one with most firmware updates to make the camera work!!!" :dance:
I've got the A350, I find it makes me seasick or something similar whenever I try to use it.
I've also got the A350 and I find the live view invaluable when I've got the camera on a tripod, it just makes life so much easier when composing the shot.
Quote from: michaelb104 on June 06, 2011, 10:28:44 AM
Quote from: spinner on June 06, 2011, 03:22:50 AM
Quote from: Carlj on June 05, 2011, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: Reinardina on June 05, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
I've only just come from there, and will certainly keep an eye. Probably till I get the hang of this site.
I told Lepach that I had registered here, as we both deplored the fact that a lot of the accomplished photographers had left, after a spat about pp.
The weekend competition is in a muddle at the moment, with a lot of inexperienced photographers (some more inexperienced than I).
We both missed the competent, positive, neutral and most of all helpful, critiques you guys used to give.
And ... received a PM from Lepach, saying he had registered too. So that's two newbies in one day.
I dare not, however, advertise too openly, as I hope to avoid some people over there.
Thought the correct answer was "The one with most firmware updates to make the camera work!!!" :dance:
I've got the A350, I find it makes me seasick or something similar whenever I try to use it.
I've also got the A350 and I find the live view invaluable when I've got the camera on a tripod, it just makes life so much easier when composing the shot.
I use it for awkward shots too, like over fences or walls. But whenever I tried using it on Macro shots the any movement on my part caused me to feel, well seasick the best way I can describe it. :'(
Quote from: jinky on June 06, 2011, 08:16:01 AM
Quote from: Reinardina on June 05, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
I've only just come from there, and will certainly keep an eye. Probably till I get the hang of this site.
I told Lepach that I had registered here, as we both deplored the fact that a lot of the accomplished photographers had left, after a spat about pp.
The weekend competition is in a muddle at the moment, with a lot of inexperienced photographers (some more inexperienced than I).
I would never leave a site about disagreements over themes / post processing allowed. What made me leave was the attitue of some on there and how rude a few "new lights" were to established forum contributors who did not deserve it. Hope you enjoy it here Reinardina - you won`t even be asked to change your name to make it easier to spell it on here ;)
I left because of the appalling spelling . . ;)
Quote from: Hinfrance on June 06, 2011, 10:44:04 AM
Quote from: jinky on June 06, 2011, 08:16:01 AM
Quote from: Reinardina on June 05, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
I've only just come from there, and will certainly keep an eye. Probably till I get the hang of this site.
I told Lepach that I had registered here, as we both deplored the fact that a lot of the accomplished photographers had left, after a spat about pp.
The weekend competition is in a muddle at the moment, with a lot of inexperienced photographers (some more inexperienced than I).
I would never leave a site about disagreements over themes / post processing allowed. What made me leave was the attitue of some on there and how rude a few "new lights" were to established forum contributors who did not deserve it. Hope you enjoy it here Reinardina - you won`t even be asked to change your name to make it easier to spell it on here ;)
I left because of the appalling spelling . . ;)
I see you're all still keeping an eye!
I'm grateful I can keep my name; this certainly is a superior forum! Both for grammar, spelling and other things. (Childish behaviour springs to mind; haven't seen that here.) I sometimes find the spelling on PR hilarious, and LOL behind my pc screen, which is fine Occasionally however, I cannot help myself and have to react. (In the case of Manuel for instance.)
Because of the recent spats on PR, and my involvement in the last mini spat, I have become afraid of opening my mouth, for fear of saying something cynical. Or something that can/will be interpreted as such.
But, this week's competition is running smoothly so far, with no childish behaviour at all! (And not much chat in general.)
Maybe there is still a future for Future?
(Have no fear, I'll stick with you lot, as long as you'll have me.)
Have to go now and do something: spending too much time behand the screen.
This forum does have a spell checker. ;) The one on "the other place" seems to ask you to install one when you click the spell check button. ???
Great to see you here too Reinardina. I wandered over here for much the same reasons. I was shocked at the attitude of some of the newer members toward our long serving senior ones. Its was like their egos prevented them from having a rational and respectful discussion and felt the only way to get their points across was to decend into heckling and insult :knuppel2:
I feel the friendly banter is disappearing from the weekend competition. There has been a couple of instances of misread posts and folks taking offence in some cases. I feel that one more barny will toll the end for the weekend competition, purely because so many new comers dont get the banter or dont like constructive critique.
A good example of this is in the General Photography forum, a new user posted up a poll regarding PP and photoshop. Someone made a lighthearted jibe at another users spelling and the Poll setter misread this, thinking it was directed at him/her and took huge offense accusing folks on the forum of being bullies and nasty.
Thankfully, it was quickly resolved, but thats all it took for it to turn into chaos :knuppel2:
Quote from: highlandscenics on June 06, 2011, 09:37:04 PM
Great to see you here too Reinardina. I wandered over here for much the same reasons. I was shocked at the attitude of some of the newer members toward our long serving senior ones. Its was like their egos prevented them from having a rational and respectful discussion and felt the only way to get their points across was to decend into heckling and insult :knuppel2:
I feel the friendly banter is disappearing from the weekend competition. There has been a couple of instances of misread posts and folks taking offence in some cases. I feel that one more barny will toll the end for the weekend competition, purely because so many new comers dont get the banter or dont like constructive critique.
A good example of this is in the General Photography forum, a new user posted up a poll regarding PP and photoshop. Someone made a lighthearted jibe at another users spelling and the Poll setter misread this, thinking it was directed at him/her and took huge offense accusing folks on the forum of being bullies and nasty.
Thankfully, it was quickly resolved, but thats all it took for it to turn into chaos :knuppel2:
It won't be long and we'll all be here! (Wel,l not literally
all I hope!)
For me too, the 'no pp' war was the beginning of the end; I now feel on tenterhooks whenever I want to say something that is not a total generality.
I've only just joined here and am still feeling my way around. I got a bit lost earlier in the day and am now going to put up a seperate post and ask for directions.
See you around, either here or there!
Quote from: Carlj on June 05, 2011, 10:56:00 PM
Thought the correct answer was "The one with most firmware updates to make the camera work!!!" :dance:
:knuppel2:
Quote from: Graham on May 15, 2011, 07:31:53 AM
Quote from: Oldboy on May 15, 2011, 12:01:12 AM
Quote from: Graham on May 14, 2011, 08:16:53 AM
Well they'er most welcome, but we don't accept just any old riffraff you know. :P
Graham.
That begs the question....How did you get on here? :P :legit:
I dug my own tunnel! :)
Think we need to dig a new one. :idea: Either that or the registration system is broken. :doh:
I tried to 'seduce' Jim (Semaj) to 'come over,' but he's too busy, and can hardly keep up with the weekend comp.
Which, by the way, had a record number of entries this week! (Anyone care to vote? There's a good shot of some 'Vintage Kit' by an unknown Dutch photographer!) ;)
Anyone else there, you think should consider joining this band of friends here? I wouldn't mind trying my - hitherto unsuccessful - seduction skills again; practice is supposed to make perfect after all.
There are still people out there, I would rather not see here, so if you dig a tunnel, can you build in some traps?
I don't want to be too specific, but you'll be well aware who some of them are.
To coin an old strap line -
"it's the members that Mick rejects, that makes Camera Craniums the best" :tup: :2funny:
Do we all agree, or does Mick really know best? It's quite possible that I have a personal erm, shall we say distaste, for some that is not shared by others?
I know the young whippersnappers that were so rude, are not much liked, but to be honest, I stopped reading that particular thread as I found it too painful. I don't even know exactly who they were. They don't visit the competition thread anymore anyway. The competition is the only part of PR that gets my regular attention.
I have (mental) problems with the double act, that is now not so much a double act anymore, as they had a fall out, and seem to be a bit more independent.
Any psychologists/psychiatrists on the scene that can explain my dislike?
Don't know about any shrinks - but what you describe is not knew.
Many on this forum were members of the original DCM site, where certain 'characters' would create 'heated discussions'. They haven't followed over to this site (thankfully) and stayed with PR or moved on to other sites. One of them now haunts Canon Rumours and creates a deal of 'animated' discussion' in the threads there.
One of the legendary 'threads' was the one discussing the 'one star ranger'. That will probably make a few here smile, it was all a bit childish - but caused some anxiety. The 'one star ranger' did not make it to this site :tup:
I have not make contact with that site
Sandy
Quote from: picsfor on August 16, 2011, 08:11:48 PM
One of the legendary 'threads' was the one discussing the 'one star ranger'. That will probably make a few here smile, it was all a bit childish - but caused some anxiety. The 'one star ranger' did not make it to this site :tup:
Jeez, that's exactly what I did when I read the one star ranger bit. ;D
Quote from: Reinardina on August 16, 2011, 04:57:30 PM
Do we all agree, or does Mick really know best? It's quite possible that I have a personal erm, shall we say distaste, for some that is not shared by others?
I know the young whippersnappers that were so rude, are not much liked, but to be honest, I stopped reading that particular thread as I found it too painful. I don't even know exactly who they were. They don't visit the competition thread anymore anyway. The competition is the only part of PR that gets my regular attention.
I have (mental) problems with the double act, that is now not so much a double act anymore, as they had a fall out, and seem to be a bit more independent.
Any psychologists/psychiatrists on the scene that can explain my dislike?
I only really go back when I read posts like this and become intrigued at what's going on.
I think at my peak I frequented 4 different photo sites. Now I'm content to just come here. ;)
If you're a student of some types of human behaviour, you can learn a lot there!
Quote from: Reinardina on August 18, 2011, 04:09:48 PM
If you're a student of some types of human behaviour, you can learn a lot there!
Especially if you want some advice about taking soccer team photos ::)
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Quote from: Reinardina on August 18, 2011, 04:09:48 PM
If you're a student of some types of human behaviour, you can learn a lot there!
Especially if you want some advice about taking soccer team photos ::)
Great chance of winning the Photo answers competition and be in with a chance of winning a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to spend several days photographing Manchester United. :2funny:
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Well they'er most welcome, but we don't accept just any old riffraff you know. :P
Graham.
That begs the question....How did you get on here? :P :legit:
I dug my own tunnel! :)
Think we need to dig a new one. :idea: Either that or the registration system is broken. :doh:
I'd code a tunnel, but it's more trouble than the site's worth.
Quote from: picsfor on August 16, 2011, 04:46:29 PM
To coin an old strap line -
"it's the members that Mick rejects, that makes Camera Craniums the best" :tup: :2funny:
Not sure about that he let me in!!!
I'm not sure I like being compared to an old trout :2funny:
Quote from: rksmith51 on August 19, 2011, 10:21:29 AM
I'm not sure I like being compared to an old trout :2funny:
Are you talking about me? :'( :o ;) (No, I'm not serious, or offended!!!!)
I left there partly upon a jibe that suggested I formed part of a so called clique. This worried me, as I realised that that was the one thing I was truly missing out on. :beer:
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Quote from: picsfor on August 16, 2011, 04:46:29 PM
To coin an old strap line -
"it's the members that Mick rejects, that makes Camera Craniums the best" :tup: :2funny:
Not sure about that he let me in!!!
Just to clarify, its a line from the John West Salmon Advert I think. "Its ones we leave out that make John West the best" ..... Other makes of tined fish are available ;)
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Quote from: Jerry WSL on August 19, 2011, 10:13:00 AM
Quote from: picsfor on August 16, 2011, 04:46:29 PM
To coin an old strap line -
"it's the members that Mick rejects, that makes Camera Craniums the best" :tup: :2funny:
Not sure about that he let me in!!!
Well, I think you'll find it's:-
"It's the fish John West reject.
That makes John West the best!"
Graham. :)
Just to clarify, its a line from the John West Salmon Advert I think. "Its ones we leave out that make John West the best" ..... Other makes of tined fish are available ;)
Quote from: beauxreflets on August 19, 2011, 01:24:07 PM
I left there partly upon a jibe that suggested I formed part of a so called clique. This worried me, as I realised that that was the one thing I was truly missing out on. :beer:
Andy, when you had your account totally wiped, you took away half of my 'Friends!' I had only Apostolis left. Since then, I have managed to 'attract' a few more.
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Quote from: beauxreflets on August 19, 2011, 01:24:07 PM
I left there partly upon a jibe that suggested I formed part of a so called clique. This worried me, as I realised that that was the one thing I was truly missing out on. :beer:
Andy, when you had your account totally wiped, you took away half of my 'Friends!' I had only Apostolis left. Since then, I have managed to 'attract' a few more.
My sincere apology Reinardina - I guess others woke up at the same time :tup: and I think CC is a far more pleasant, more professional place to be. :)
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Quote from: beauxreflets on August 19, 2011, 01:24:07 PM
I left there partly upon a jibe that suggested I formed part of a so called clique. This worried me, as I realised that that was the one thing I was truly missing out on. :beer:
Andy, when you had your account totally wiped, you took away half of my 'Friends!' I had only Apostolis left. Since then, I have managed to 'attract' a few more.
My sincere apology Reinardina - I guess others woke up at the same time :tup: and I think CC is a far more pleasant, more professional place to be. :)
Andy, there were no others! I was a strictly two men woman. Have been for a very long time. I have now, rather unexpectedly, become really polygamous.
I definitely agree about the pleasantness and professionalism of CC; I'm still grateful I was accepted!
Ok. I had a spare 10 mins. this morning, so I donned the disguise and went and had a snoop.
I got to the thread about "Iv'e got three grands worth of gear, can someone tell me how to take a picture of 11 men standing still in three rows?" and suddenly rememberd I had some ironing to do!
Graham. :legit:
I looked in...got as far as the riots thread...and lost the will to live.... ::)
Maybe I should have a look in; I never get beyond the Competition thread.
Haven't even seen the soccer thing; it must be very interesting as it attracts attention here!
Thinking of returning there - at least there's more activity and many more photos! :legit:
you'd expect more activity with nearly 59,000 members ::)
Quote from: Markulous on August 22, 2011, 07:54:30 PM
Thinking of returning there - at least there's more activity and many more photos! :legit:
Ah! The old quantity not quality view. ;)
Quote from: Markulous on August 22, 2011, 07:54:30 PM
Thinking of returning there - at least there's more activity and many more photos! :legit:
'Dead body' comes to mind when thinking of that place.
Here, you learn things, you get honest opinions, you get real help - and you don't get threatened with having your name removed off the list if you make suggestion as to how things could be improved, or point out that somethings not working.
Not got enough activity for you? Invite some others to join in. Let's get a 1000 members. A 1000 members on this site will comfortably 100,000 members on the other site.
Oh and for the record, one of those members is supposed to be me! so make that 58,999 actual members - as opposed to 'listed' members.
There are a dozen or more members of this site tried to help them get it working properly - and these are people who know what they're talking about. I still have my e-mail telling me to wind my neck in and stay out of it - because i didn't know as much about developing a web site as some 22 year old with a degree in hair dressing or using MS Word, let alone camera (i found it the other day when i was having a clear out). All i said was listen to these people who do actually know what they're talking about because some of them do it for a living!
More chance of Gaddafi running Libya next year than me going to that place! (how topical is that?) :uglystupid2:
Wasn't suggesting anyone else should, just stating what I thought I might be doing - I'm on way smaller sites than this one with much more activity and yes, much better quality so you really can't use that one!
I used to load photos there but got fed up as nobody looks at the photos.I do look at the forums from time to time as there are a few people who will answer your question(and it's the same people all the time).
P.S. A lot of them are on here now!
I post my photos here,Flickr and www.ephotozine as they are the best places for feedback.
Des
Well it's a free country and we all like different things. I think it was about 2003 I joined the DCMag site but things move on and the new incarnation might have lots of extras but just does'nt quite work as well. Does'nt quite have that community feel - and I really hate it when people jump in with sarcastic responses to what might or might not be serious questions without giving the benefit of the doubt or ignoring the thread. Comparisons - a bit like Macdonalds v a little local cafe ... :beer:
Quote from: greypoint on August 22, 2011, 10:47:52 PM
Comparisons - a bit like Macdonalds v a little local cafe ... :beer:
You mean you prefer burgers to cream teas! :P
er no..I'm strictly a cream teas person myself...don't eat burgers or frequent fast food places ... might have the odd meal of fish and chips ;)
I won't be joining in over there again.
The site seems to suffer from it's own version of Godwin's law - it's not five minutes before someone who has just bought the latest Cankon as their first ever camera aggressively wades in to just about any thread.
I have been looking at the weekend comp entries recently, and there it definitely is quantity over quality. I reckon that most people would bin the larger part of the entries let alone post them in a competition.
But a lot of people seem to be having fun, and that's what it's all about. Just not what it used to be, and not my cup of tea.
But I think the main point is that pr is a large commercial site where you'd expect lots of input and lots of people contributing. This is more of a small community of mainly grumpy people trying to make sense of things and help each other out without taking it too seriously. Perhaps everyone should make a pledge to start a new discussion, upload a picture and comment on at least 3 others.....today :dance: :dance: :dance:
Quote from: Hinfrance on August 23, 2011, 07:41:43 AM
I won't be joining in over there again.
The site seems to suffer from it's own version of Godwin's law - it's not five minutes before someone who has just bought the latest Cankon as their first ever camera aggressively wades in to just about any thread.
I have been looking at the weekend comp entries recently, and there it definitely is quantity over quality. I reckon that most people would bin the larger part of the entries let alone post them in a competition.
But a lot of people seem to be having fun, and that's what it's all about. Just not what it used to be, and not my cup of tea.
Very regularly, I think Mark (Cutter)'s entry is the only 'proper' quality photograph, but no one else seems to see it.
I'm still trying to win there, and not getting very far. Not saying I have the best entries every time, but sometimes mine are, in my 'modest' opinion, better than some that get more votes. Must admit I've got a bee in my bonnet about the whole thing; I'm convinced some people vote 'with their heart' rather than their eye. Or maybe they know even less about photography than I.
"Just not what it used to be" I couldn't agree more! Still missing the proper entries and critiques!
Quote from: Markulous on August 22, 2011, 10:32:10 PM
Wasn't suggesting anyone else should, just stating what I thought I might be doing - I'm on way smaller sites than this one with much more activity and yes, much better quality so you really can't use that one!
You are quite right in that it is your choice to go where you will, and i apologise if i was suggesting otherwise - it's just that 'that' site brings out the best of me.
I do not devote myself solely to this site either, but it think it keeps me in touch with how the DCMag was when i got back into photography after a short absence way back when.
It is horses for courses, a mate of mine loves ePhotozine, but i just can't get on with it - although i've tried a few times.
Quote from: Markulous on August 22, 2011, 07:54:30 PM
Thinking of returning there - at least there's more activity and many more photos! :legit:
Like a lot of people on this site, you're still there part of the time, aren't you? Why not keep it this way?
I haven't been here very long and haven't worked out half of the things, but I like the feel of it, the friendliness and the fact I wasn't asked to simplify my name, because it is so difficult to spell. And I must admit, I'm used to grumpy people, so they don't scare me!
So far, I find the forums on PR easier to use and navigate, but that could be because I've been there for years, and got used to them.
There are indeed many more photos there, but nobody ever looks at them. It is very laborious to upload and view pictures and no one seems interested in making it more user friendly.
It is, of course, entirely up to you, but if you have the time, I'd say keep in touch with both sites and help liven things up here!
I'm sure any suggestions to improve things, will be looked at in a positive way!
I think we have to accept that the two sites are inhabited by people with differing outlooks on photography. Here I feel that the contributors are, whilst not self-satisfied, comfortable with what they do. You get the feeling that what they post in the galleries is saying, here's what I do please have a look and I hope you like it.
Whereas on PR there seems to be a constant need to be commented on, and those that do comment are usually the same people all the time, whose level of expertise is not any greater than that of the photographer they are commenting on, so we have a perpetual non-improvment situation.
Alan, you are right about the experience and competence of the photographers on this site. Most of the photographers I should say, as I am not amongst them. I like/need/crave feedback as I'm still struggling to find my photographic feet (only two though, not a tripod!).
I'm beginning to realise what my weaknesses are, some are related to my poor eyesight, some to the camera (I like to think.) I also hope to find my strenghts (if any).
Any suggestions/advice is therefore very welcome, and I will always try to follow the advice given. Sometimes I succeed, sometimes I get hopelessly lost, and get nowhere.
I'm not giving up though. Not yet anyway.
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Quote from: Hinfrance on August 23, 2011, 07:41:43 AM
I won't be joining in over there again.
The site seems to suffer from it's own version of Godwin's law - it's not five minutes before someone who has just bought the latest Cankon as their first ever camera aggressively wades in to just about any thread.
I have been looking at the weekend comp entries recently, and there it definitely is quantity over quality. I reckon that most people would bin the larger part of the entries let alone post them in a competition.
But a lot of people seem to be having fun, and that's what it's all about. Just not what it used to be, and not my cup of tea.
Very regularly, I think Mark (Cutter)'s entry is the only 'proper' quality photograph, but no one else seems to see it.
I'm still trying to win there, and not getting very far. Not saying I have the best entries every time, but sometimes mine are, in my 'modest' opinion, better than some that get more votes. Must admit I've got a bee in my bonnet about the whole thing; I'm convinced some people vote 'with their heart' rather than their eye. Or maybe they know even less about photography than I.
"Just not what it used to be" I couldn't agree more! Still missing the proper entries and critiques!
For the first time in weeks,
a quality entry has won!!!!! And guess what, it was by one of the 'old timers.'
And guess what again; it still did not get the number of votes it should have!
Took a look and you're right Reinardina. Mind you Sie seems to be in the minority in understanding what backlighting means.
Quote from: ABERS on August 25, 2011, 08:10:48 AM
Took a look and you're right Reinardina. Mind you Sie seems to be in the minority in understanding what backlighting means.
You mean Sie is a proper photographer. One of the few remaining members of the lost tribe!
Quote from: picsfor on August 23, 2011, 08:11:54 AM
You are quite right in that it is your choice to go where you will, and i apologise if i was suggesting otherwise - it's just that 'that' site brings out the best of me.
I do not devote myself solely to this site either, but it think it keeps me in touch with how the DCMag was when i got back into photography after a short absence way back when.
It is horses for courses, a mate of mine loves ePhotozine, but i just can't get on with it - although i've tried a few times.
No apology necessary! Prefer straight talking anyway! ;)
EPZ? No thanks! :knuppel2:
Interesting comments re. Backlighting. Personally, I didn't really see any that really met the criterion very well - backlighting should really be where the
only light is from behind and onto the subject leaving the foreground and subject front relatively dark, not front (I assume with flash, reflector or processing)
and back like the winning image (although very nice!), which then just becomes an overall more even lighting
I always understood, that if you photographed 'against the light,' that that was backlighting.
Mind you, I have collected my photographic knowledge over the years, from here there and everywhere, and I cannot be sure of the accuracy of a lot of it.
Maybe the meaning has changed over the years, and now has a wider meaning?
Quote from: Reinardina on August 25, 2011, 08:50:32 PM
I always understood, that if you photographed 'against the light,' that that was backlighting.
Mind you, I have collected my photographic knowledge over the years, from here there and everywhere, and I cannot be sure of the accuracy of a lot of it.
Maybe the meaning has changed over the years, and now has a wider meaning?
Here you go from Photography.com. ;D
Backlighting refers to lighting in a photograph that comes from behind an object. Because backlighting requires a subtle manipulation of a scene's light, photographers consider it a more advanced technique to master. When effectively implemented in a scene, however, backlighting can enhance the finer details of an object (such as the tiny hairs on bug) or a scenes more delicate features (such as the dust particles or drops of mist in a given background).
Oftentimes, backlighting comes from ambient light around the subject of the photograph.
Some experts recommend using a lens hood when trying to enhance the effects of backlighting in photographs. Such a hood can significantly reduce the glare involved when pointing a camera directly into light. Similarly, aperture settings should be set on the shorter side to limit light and reduce the chances of overexposing the film.
If too much light does enter the lens when a photographer is trying to use backlighting, the image will lose definition. Ironically, the use of backlighting can either enhance or diminish the definition and intricacy of a photo, whether or not it is used correctly.
Backlighting is most commonly used in nature and landscape shots. If a photographer uses backlighting in a portrait shot, they are generally trying to add a more dramatic, intense mood to the scene.
I haven't been on PR for years I left there came here and stayed (have looked in now and then but NEVER post), got bored of the sniping, the perceived "rights grab" when uploading to their gallery (dunno if they changed that or not) and just did not like the new layout at all, so i stay here and have got to actually meet (as in IN PERSON) some real photographers who know what they're doing and what they're talking about and have been on shoots with them (we MUST do another meet soon peeps!!!) and I just like the whole attitude of the people on Micks site.
I do belong to dyxum as well but that is a Sony/Minolta/Alpha mount dedicated site and although a nice site and friendly not the same as here.
I love the fact that I can post a pic in the gallery here and it may not be the best shot in the world (far from it) but people take the effort to have a look and comment on it....there are a lot of talented togs on here who I wish I had a quarter of their talent (Eileen, Oldboy, Abers, Andrew, Howard to name a few) who take the trouble to give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism to those of us who are less talented but give advice freely and without shooting the shot down in flames...So CC for me and PR could crash and burn for all I care, the only good thing about DCM as it was, was I got to know about here and communicate with sensible people with a shared interest rather than mainly idiots who just want glory for themselves and just knock other peoples shots because they can.
And apologies if this comes across as a rant having a grouchy morning...
OB thanks for that. Unless I interpret it wrongly, it seems I was more or less right about backlighting. It seems to mean all sorts of things, from stark sihouettes to 'see through' shots.
Keith, I love a good rant at times! My husband is good at it, and it makes a refreshing change to read one on a different subject!
And you are lucky, I still have to meet a real photographer! In a private capacity that is.
At the moment trying to get on a local photography course, in the hope to learn a few new things, or rather, a lot of new things! But also in the hope of finding some like minded souls.
At the moment, I'm the only one among my family and friends, who does more than taking family and holiday shots. The result is, that everyone thinks I'm the bee's knees, while I know I haven't even started yet. It's flattering, and highly frustrating at the same time!
Quote from: krennon on August 26, 2011, 07:34:59 AM
I haven't been on PR for years I left there came here and stayed (have looked in now and then but NEVER post), got bored of the sniping, the perceived "rights grab" when uploading to their gallery (dunno if they changed that or not) and just did not like the new layout at all, so i stay here and have got to actually meet (as in IN PERSON) some real photographers who know what they're doing and what they're talking about and have been on shoots with them (we MUST do another meet soon peeps!!!) and I just like the whole attitude of the people on Micks site.
I do belong to dyxum as well but that is a Sony/Minolta/Alpha mount dedicated site and although a nice site and friendly not the same as here.
I love the fact that I can post a pic in the gallery here and it may not be the best shot in the world (far from it) but people take the effort to have a look and comment on it....there are a lot of talented togs on here who I wish I had a quarter of their talent (Eileen, Oldboy, Abers, Andrew, Howard to name a few) who take the trouble to give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism to those of us who are less talented but give advice freely and without shooting the shot down in flames...So CC for me and PR could crash and burn for all I care, the only good thing about DCM as it was, was I got to know about here and communicate with sensible people with a shared interest rather than mainly idiots who just want glory for themselves and just knock other peoples shots because they can.
And apologies if this comes across as a rant having a grouchy morning...
I pretty much relearned my photography online and through going out with other 'togs (good and bad, pros and amateurs) and luckily had the benefit of honesty rather than massaging of my ego! Cr4p shots were called just that! I've seen many progress their photography but, not getting honest feedback, pick up bad habits and as their images are called 'good' passing on their techniques to others. I am always my worst critic but welcome any comments, good or bad as I'm always striving to be better. So my comments on someone's image tend to what I actually see, an honest appraisal, as that's what I found worked best for me
Quote from: Markulous on August 26, 2011, 08:52:15 AM
I pretty much relearned my photography online and through going out with other 'togs (good and bad, pros and amateurs) and luckily had the benefit of honesty rather than massaging of my ego! Cr4p shots were called just that! I've seen many progress their photography but, not getting honest feedback, pick up bad habits and as their images are called 'good' passing on their techniques to others. I am always my worst critic but welcome any comments, good or bad as I'm always striving to be better. So my comments on someone's image tend to what I actually see, an honest appraisal, as that's what I found worked best for me
The nail hit squarely on the head! Unfotunately it rarely happens, and unless it happens it is a classic case of the blind leading the blind, and we all know who is king in the land of the blind!
Genuinely constructive criticism - that's a lovely thing to get, and be able to give.
The real trick is knowing if the recipient is up for critique. It is only by getting honest feedback can you improve.
I would also like to thank Keith for his praise, but would suggest he is no worse a photographer than me - after all, who remembers his picture of the Stag in Richmond Park. Any critique given to that pic was really just splitting hairs.
The real beauty of photography is - you never stop learning, and can always try another area of photographer if you feel you need a change.
As for this site, ca,e here at the end of DCM, and never went back. Honest comment, friendly and helpful people - oh and Mick lives just down the road from my home town :tup:
Just that he lives on the Blonde side of the Stour :legit: :D
I still frequent there on a daily basis. Not sure if this sounds pretentious but I tend to find I give more than I get on that site.
Just had another look on that site, and saw a "History of photography" thread. As I have an interest in this fascinating subject, I had a look.
Cue gil ritchie resurrecting the old "What was your first camera" DCM thread. :-\
Nice Zeiss Ikon, btw Reinardina. :)
Quote from: Deegee on September 09, 2011, 06:08:28 PM
Just had another look on that site, and saw a "History of photography" thread. As I have an interest in this fascinating subject, I had a look.
Cue gil ritchie resurrecting the old "What was your first camera" DCM thread. :-\
Nice Zeiss Ikon, btw Reinardina. :)
Yes, thank you. I must agree! It must have been handled with so much care, as it still looks brand new. But then in those days, things like that were precious, and people looked after their stuff.
I cannot remember precisely when that particular thread was started, but I think it lay dormant and someone dug it up recently. Haven't seen Gil Ritchie's name for ages on PR.
Yes, I still frequent it regularly, mainly the weekend competition forum. I want to beat them at some stage! Last weekend I was in shared second place; very credible, till you see that Mark (Cutter) had 17 votes and I four! Considering that Mark uses top of the range equipment and I a bridge camera, I think I didn't do too badly! We seem to have moved away from voting for (in my opinion) second rate pictures and the last few weeks quality has prevailed. Long may it last.
Quote from: Reinardina on September 09, 2011, 10:30:24 PM
Yes, thank you. I must agree! It must have been handled with so much care, as it still looks brand new. But then in those days, things like that were precious, and people looked after their stuff.
Plus, things were made to last, in those days... although bellows/flatbed cameras tended to suffer lightleaks due to the very nature of their design.
*looks over his shoulder, to see a Kiev 4, 2 Leica LTMs, a Zorki 4, a FED-NKVD, an Olympus OM-1md, a couple of Kodak cameras (Box No2, Brownie 127 mk3), 2 Zeiss Ikon cameras*
(let's forget about the Holga 120N... ;) )
Quote from: Reinardina on September 09, 2011, 10:30:24 PM
I cannot remember precisely when that particular thread was started, but I think it lay dormant and someone dug it up recently. Haven't seen Gil Ritchie's name for ages on PR.
The thread itself was started back when DCM was alive, before the admin staff decided to make an appearance and kill any signs of personality. The regulars chipped in, but that was it.
It wasn't easy trying to get the lurkers to speak up, which is a shame as they tend to be more interesting (no offence to CC, btw).
Quote from: Reinardina on September 09, 2011, 10:30:24 PM
Yes, I still frequent it regularly, mainly the weekend competition forum. I want to beat them at some stage! Last weekend I was in shared second place; very credible, till you see that Mark (Cutter) had 17 votes and I four! Considering that Mark uses top of the range equipment and I a bridge camera, I think I didn't do too badly! We seem to have moved away from voting for (in my opinion) second rate pictures and the last few weeks quality has prevailed. Long may it last.
Equipment tends to be meaningless, to be honest. Right tools for the right job, and that's it. It's experience, and the grey matter in the users head, that counts.
A camera's only a box with a hole in it, no matter what techno-gubbins the designers slap on it.
Quote from: Deegee on September 10, 2011, 03:56:28 AM
Equipment tends to be meaningless, to be honest. Right tools for the right job, and that's it. It's experience, and the grey matter in the users head, that counts.
A camera's only a box with a hole in it, no matter what techno-gubbins the designers slap on it.
This is so true! You can have the best equipment and still can't compose a good shot (and there are a good number who fit this category! ::)). And by the same token, have what is considered a poor camera and produce fabulous shots - the example that comes to mind is someone who had a bridge camera and the pure quality of her shots (mainly portraits) resulted in her being offered a book contract. The art is in the composition and working to the strengths of the gear! ;)
What always makes me laugh is those that rush off and get all manner of filters and spend ages trying to then use them (and usually use all manner of filters in PP) instead of concentrating on actually getting a good composition! ;D
Deegee and Markulous.
Can't beat the cameras you have Deegee! I only have an old (late seventies I guess) Minolta semi automatic and a Kodak Instamatic, because no one else could use my Minolta, so if I wanted to be in a photograph (I still did in those days!) someone had to use the Kodak.
I did not get into photography in a more serious way, till the arrival of digital cameras. I had a few decades where photography was impossible as I lost almost all of my sight and simply couldn't focus the camera. Now I rely mainly on autofocus, though I occasionally venture into manual controls. It's still a problem though, especially with 'moving' (literally) subjects.
And about the quality of cameras and quality of shots and grey matter etc, my grey matter is still in good working order (I hope). I try to develop something like a photographer's eye, and definitely look at things in a different way than in the past. If I'm on the right track I don't know yet. Composition wise, I'm still not there.
Quality wise, I don't think my camera can never match the crispness the big boys get out of theirs, so I have to try and beat them on other points. But I like a challenge and it is more fun to try and beat them, than some of the others!
Like last week, I have reasonable hopes again, but probably won't get anywhere.
Just come from PR: the 'History' thread dates back to December 2009!